This is why I don't support the death penalty (statistics, suspected, Brown)
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Capital punishment should be carried out within 30 days to avoid the decades convicts spend on death row waiting for their day - if anyone in the state penal system has the cajones to actually follow through.
1. You got FUBAR right except for the last word that is "recognition" LOL
2. Your view I think is pretty consistent at least, you seem willing to want to error on the side of caution in both circumstances which is a position you can defend.
3. Myself? I think the moment a fetus is conceived it's not up to us to decide whether it's human or not. It's beyond us at that point.
1. Thanks for clarifying this.
2. Thank you.
3. I agree about the humanity part, but I disagree that humanity is the decisive factor in this debate.
1. Not quite--the debate over the moral justifiability of abortion if a bit more complex than this. It's about personhood (rather than humanity--and No, the two are not the same) and about whose rights should take precedence.
In order to argue whose rights should take precedence you first have to establish that any right is being violated. As soon as the unborn has any rights at all, then the mother has no right to an abortion. There can be no legitimate argument about which one's rights take precedence, as there is no right to murder people. The only way the mother can have a right to an abortion is if the unborn doesn't have rights. So either way you fall on the issue, it isn't a comparison of rights. If the mother can have the abortion, then the unborn has no rights. If the unborn has rights, the mother has no right to murder it. Such a right does not exist.
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2. I myself lean in opposition to abortion and oppose the death penalty except on demand/request.
I oppose all unnecessary termination of another human life. I don't support capital punishment, I don't support elective abortion, and I don't support euthanasia. The only termination of human life I support is suicide (or DNR orders), since that is terminating your own life or self defense, in which it may be necessary to terminate another life in order to save your own.
How do you know Westerfield admitted he did it? Did he say he admitted doing it? Did his lawyers say he admitted it? Did the prosecutor say he admitted it?
Prosecutors don't offer the deal with the hopes hes telling the truth. They offer the deal after being assured by his lawyers that he has the information. The plea bargain was all done except for the final signatures.
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I have already explained why her mother’s (and father’s) actions did allow the kidnapping to happen: the unlocked doors.
The bottom line is that, unless you can prove Westerfield admitted guilt, you can’t say that the defense lied.
A basic understanding is all one needs. As noted above.
1. Not quite--the debate over the moral justifiability of abortion if a bit more complex than this. It's about personhood (rather than humanity--and No, the two are not the same) and about whose rights should take precedence.
2. I myself lean in opposition to abortion and oppose the death penalty except on demand/request.
3. FUBAR? Fvcked Up Beyond All Reason?
"personhood"? I had to look that up. That word isn’t even in my old dictionary. It seems that it means different things to different people - at different times and in different places. It means what you want it to mean, or what the group in power want it to mean. Various groups of people have not been considered persons, with full legal rights, in the past - and even now. It’s frightening - dangerous. Denying a minor the right to a driver’s license is one thing; denying them the right to life quite another.
It is the dumbing down of America that gives us poor jurors.. they don't think very deeply. When OJ walked with a mountain of evidence against him I knew catch phrases such as" the gloves don't fit you must acquit" are taken seriously.
I believe in the death penalty. The BTK killer would be dead if I had my choice. His first killing spree was a family. He killed a mother and father in front of their children.. killed the kids and sexually abused the girl tying her up in the basement hanging her there like a piece of meat and sexually assaulted her then killed her. He killed more and more .. he also was married and was a church deacon. How is that for evil!
Prosecutors don't offer the deal with the hopes hes telling the truth. They offer the deal after being assured by his lawyers that he has the information. The plea bargain was all done except for the final signatures.
A basic understanding is all one needs. As noted above.
You seem to be saying that prosecutors won’t approach a suspect’s lawyers saying: "we are offering him this deal", but will instead say: "we will offer him this deal if you assure us he has this information". To me, that’s tantamount to just playing with words, a distinction without a difference. A deal can be signed and sealed, but if the suspect doesn’t meet all the conditions - in this case specifically, revealing the location of the body - then that deal would be worthless, irrespective of whether the prosecutors initially demanded that assurance or not. How many suspects would agree to a deal if they didn’t have the required information?
You still haven’t provided any proof that Westerfield admitted guilt.
i believe in the death penally. like somebody said 30 days. i think we need an express lane. four or five in a single day. I also think it needed to be expanded , all crimes with a gun, no matter if bullets in the gun or not. all crimes against children. all crime when somebody dies. all crimes committed by politicians and policemen. crime where they steal your life savings. all rapes, and that one guy in the blue buick with his turn signal on for twelve miles.
only thing stop crime is fear or death
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