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so you may be happy, but many of your fellow Texans aren't!
really shameful...
Has it EVER occurred to you that some people don't think like you? They aren't for sale for the mere promise of being given something. They value their individual freedom.
It's amazing, that so many liberals are extremely condemning of people who refuse to sell their votes for a promise of handouts. It's like they have adopted the reverse of integrity and now condemn those who have it.
Large group healthcare plans insure 80% of the insured population. The exchange is for individual policy holders, less than 4 % of the insured population with policies that were not grandfathered.
BCBS is the only insurer in NH on the exchange. They, like all insurers, seek to negotiate in-network rates with healthcare providers. They were unable to come to an agreement with all hospitals in the state which is not uncommon.
It reasonable to assume that those hospitals who opted out of becoming in-network providers have enough business from large group healthcare providers. It's also possible that some or all such hospitals have exclusive/semi exclusive in network arrangements with other insurers who offer large group healthcare plans and are contractually unable to enter into incremental in-network arrangements with competing insurers.
Hmmm...Obamacare is having a minimal effect and just a few people will see any change (except for skyrocketing premiums and deductibles), yet for some reason we can't get by without it.
No most of the conservative people who post here are taking out way more than they put into any gubbermint system. Ad up VA, Tricare, Medicare, SS. and SS Disabiltity and yo will find the Tea Party base somewhere in the middle of all those programs..Nothing wrong with a handout but aren't you a hypocrite when you complain about the ACA?
VA benefits are earned.
SS and Disability are insurance programs that take their premiums out of working people's pay checks with no provision for opting out.
Feel free to buy me out.
Just return all the money the federal government has confiscated from me over the years, with interest of course, and never take another dime from me for any of these programs.
Who cares?? Unless you are participating why would you care that your choices are limited? Ever shopped around for the lowest price. I guess if you are a Tea Partier on some gubbermint program you think their is an endless supply of taxpayers dollars for Medicare, VA, etc. In this case the gubbermint has decided there isn't an endless supply of tax payer dollars and is cutting costs. Whats wrong with that.
Liberals aren't that smart are they? You people are unbelievable. The garbage you just spewed has nothing, zero, zilch to do with cost containment. If your thinking is the wave of the liberal future we should all just quit now and start learning Chinese because we are screwed.
Has it EVER occurred to you that some people don't think like you? They aren't for sale for the mere promise of being given something. They value their individual freedom.
It's amazing, that so many liberals are extremely condemning of people who refuse to sell their votes for a promise of handouts. It's like they have adopted the reverse of integrity and now condemn those who have it.
if you had any extensive knowledge on the subject; you would know that the health insurance system before the ACA was progressive! i.e. you or me were already paying for someone else! the least utilizers of insurance pay for the people who use it more; thats how insurance always worked, deal with it!
what people like you need to understand is that we are all in this together! instead you choose to be selfish and hate-filled, its really quite sad.
Please enlighten me how I expressed hatred? Was it the brain comment? Get over it.
Do you even know what Apathy means? Let me educate you since you imply that I am not educated. Apathy (also called lethargy or perfunctoriness) is most commonly defined as a lack of feeling, emotion, interest, or concern. It is a state of indifference, or the suppression of emotions such as concern, excitement, motivation and/or passion. An apathetic individual has an absence of interest in or concern about emotional, social, spiritual, philosophical and/or physical life and the world.
I have a LOT of feelings about this subject. Do I want people to be able to have health care? Of course. Do I have emotion, interest or concern. Absolutely, If I didn't I wouldn't be on this thread. Am I indifferent or suppressing emotions. See what I just wrote above. I am anything but apathetic about this.
Your reference to the insurance being progressive. You are correct. If you are in group insurance you are taking advantage of a discounted rate if you were to have a really bad year. Hopefully if a few people racked up $100,000 invoices there were others to offset it the opposite direction. Here is the difference. ALL of them in my insurance group are PAYING a monthly fee.
If ACA required everyone to pay then I would not be nearly as upset. In fact there is one part of the law that I really like.........being that your child can stay on your insurance to age 26. I do believe this is a great benefit to allow young adults to get on their feet.
How about we switch this to car insurance. You have people that buy car insurance for a Corvette (Rich) and then there is the Tahoe (Upper middle class) then the Silverado (lower middle class) then the Malibu (Poor). So let's apply ACA to the car insurance. We need to charge the rich and upper middle class more money. We are going to keep the lower middle class about the same and then the poor......well heck let's just give them their insurance for free.
Consider this, 91% of American adults have a cell phone and 56% of those are smart phones. Now I don't know about the rest of the country but around here you are looking at $45 to $120 per month depending on the plan. How many of those without health care insurance have a phone? How many of them have cable TV? I know some very poor people that have smart phones and cable TV. Which one is more important?
Who cares?? Unless you are participating why would you care that your choices are limited? Ever shopped around for the lowest price. I guess if you are a Tea Partier on some gubbermint program you think their is an endless supply of taxpayers dollars for Medicare, VA, etc. In this case the gubbermint has decided there isn't an endless supply of tax payer dollars and is cutting costs. Whats wrong with that.
Talk about the tea party, yet you sound like a pro Obama zealot just ignoring everything the OP said.
My PRIVATE insurance has been adversely effected by Obamacare when parts of it went into effect two years ago. Now my GI specialist told me they are no longer going to be able to provide care for the rest of the year, and maybe never again after the new year once more Obamacare goes into effect.
So don't go diminishing people who may or may not be on Medicare, and assume they are the only ones complaining.
SS and Disability are insurance programs that take their premiums out of working people's pay checks with no provision for opting out.
Feel free to buy me out.
Just return all the money the federal government has confiscated from me over the years, with interest of course, and never take another dime from me for any of these programs.
Exactly
While not all SS is earned in that they will give it to people who never paid in a dime (spouses and even illegals), most everyone that has earned a paycheck gets it taken out every pay day.
I am with you, I don't want the government manage my money for me and assume I am too stupid or irresponsible plan for my own retirement.
While not all SS is earned in that they will give it to people who never paid in a dime (spouses and even illegals), most everyone that has earned a paycheck gets it taken out every pay day.
I am with you, I don't want the government manage my money for me and assume I am too stupid or irresponsible plan for my own retirement.
Yeah, I'm with you. I would MUCH rather have control over my own Social Security funds. I know Cain was pushed out early in the election last time but the Chile model he proposed for Social Security was a good one.
Please enlighten me how I expressed hatred? Was it the brain comment? Get over it.
Do you even know what Apathy means? Let me educate you since you imply that I am not educated. Apathy (also called lethargy or perfunctoriness) is most commonly defined as a lack of feeling, emotion, interest, or concern. It is a state of indifference, or the suppression of emotions such as concern, excitement, motivation and/or passion. An apathetic individual has an absence of interest in or concern about emotional, social, spiritual, philosophical and/or physical life and the world.
I have a LOT of feelings about this subject. Do I want people to be able to have health care? Of course. Do I have emotion, interest or concern. Absolutely, If I didn't I wouldn't be on this thread. Am I indifferent or suppressing emotions. See what I just wrote above. I am anything but apathetic about this.
Your reference to the insurance being progressive. You are correct. If you are in group insurance you are taking advantage of a discounted rate if you were to have a really bad year. Hopefully if a few people racked up $100,000 invoices there were others to offset it the opposite direction. Here is the difference. ALL of them in my insurance group are PAYING a monthly fee.
If ACA required everyone to pay then I would not be nearly as upset. In fact there is one part of the law that I really like.........being that your child can stay on your insurance to age 26. I do believe this is a great benefit to allow young adults to get on their feet.
How about we switch this to car insurance. You have people that buy car insurance for a Corvette (Rich) and then there is the Tahoe (Upper middle class) then the Silverado (lower middle class) then the Malibu (Poor). So let's apply ACA to the car insurance. We need to charge the rich and upper middle class more money. We are going to keep the lower middle class about the same and then the poor......well heck let's just give them their insurance for free.
Consider this, 91% of American adults have a cell phone and 56% of those are smart phones. Now I don't know about the rest of the country but around here you are looking at $45 to $120 per month depending on the plan. How many of those without health care insurance have a phone? How many of them have cable TV? I know some very poor people that have smart phones and cable TV. Which one is more important?
your hatred, which has become typical of 'conservatives nowadays, is you expressing disdain for your fellow Americans who you consider below your station or have made poor choices (the 47% as your candidate put it in the 2012 election) to the point that you defend the status quo regarding healthcare; meaning you think its ok for over 50 million people to be uninsured (because they dare may have a smart phone), and for thousands to die each year because they don't and didn't have access to healthcare.
at the end of the day its a very shameful position to hold!
and these constant gotcha games and trivial comparisons, republicans and the press are playing regarding this issue, are also despicable and completely missing the point that lives (and quality of lives) will be saved because of the ACA; which shows you all's apathy or indifference regarding the healthcare of the uninsured/under-insured! is the ACA perfect? No, its not. but until you have a better, more feasible idea; i suggest you get over it!
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