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Old 11-12-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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No.
you can say everyone is important, or everyone has a role or a job, but not everyone deserves the honor bestowed upon the key actors. As some have pointed out already, some people should just be on the sidelines with the civilians and enjoy the show - thats what some have been doing anyway.

I just feel as a civilian (like myself), I perhaps have no right judging any veterans because I don't know what they have been through.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Wherever I happen to be at the moment
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With all due respect, By joining the military, each person knows that there is a significant chance he or she could end up fighting our nation’s wars where their outcome is unknown. While certain jobs may be considered more dangerous than another, one does not diminish the other. The military is a team effort and it does not succeed with out the combined force. Each and every veteran matters. Your brother in law does sound a bit annoying, I lol at the comment "he's extremely fat now" All joke aside, No matter the reason your bil joined the military, each veteran felt the need to serve his or her country, which is heroic enough in itself.

no?
Or put it another way. Every troop who completes Army basic training or Marine Corps boot camp is a rifleman. Regardless of what their MOS becomes, when push-comes-to-shove, they're a basic grunt and may have to operate like one. In that respect, they're all in the combat arms.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Or put it another way. Every troop who completes Army basic training or Marine Corps boot camp is a rifleman. Regardless of what their MOS becomes, when push-comes-to-shove, they're a basic grunt and may have to operate like one. In that respect, they're all in the combat arms.
well said.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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I just feel as a civilian (like myself), I perhaps have no right judging any veterans because I don't know what they have been through.
This is obviously not about you. Noone is stopping you from giving everyone some love if youre into that kind of stuff. That could get annoying too though and definitely would screw it up for everyone else like you. Some moderation is always good.

At some point someone has to say 'Youre welcome." and move on and out of the queue and let's spend more of the resources for the ones who truly deserve it
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Thanks but this is exactly the issue. Some people ARE "linemen" (a defense/offense field job), some only see themselves as "linemen in theory" but they do not really directly support a mission or is part of 'the game/fight'. simply put not all military guys are players, so please stop this type of analogy
watch "The fan"
This is only an issue to those who view this topic with ignorance. The entire team wins and loses as one, correct? Or do those who serve in more direct roles get a win regardless for the sake of stroking their ego.

The same way that not every grunt/combat troop is a player, there is very little difference in those who do not have the role to participate in direct roles.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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This is obviously not about you. Noone is stopping you from giving everyone some love if youre into that kind of stuff. That could get annoying too though and definitely would screw it up for everyone else like you. Some moderation is always good.

At some point someone has to say 'Youre welcome." and move on and out of the queue and let's spend more of the resources for the ones who truly deserve it
So saying "I don't think I should judge anybody especially I don't know what they have been through" =
"giving everybody some love"? = That (not judging) could get annoying ? Got it.

I think at this moment, we just have to agree to disagree. My brother's Marine Corps mos is 0321 look that up. I don't give anybody free love if they don't deserve it. =)

For example, I don't and won't give your brother in law any "love", (if you don't recall, let me remind you that I am the one of the few feel he is a bit annoying) but I STILL don't feel I need to judge him because his behavior won't bother me.

It gets annoying when people are just so easily offended. I'd let him be. But then again, it is just me =)

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Old 11-12-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Or put it another way. Every troop who completes Army basic training or Marine Corps boot camp is a rifleman. Regardless of what their MOS becomes, when push-comes-to-shove, they're a basic grunt and may have to operate like one. In that respect, they're all in the combat arms.
I believe only the Marine Corps emphasizes that every Marine is a rifleman. The Army is much too large for this to be true.
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:13 PM
 
Location: southern h
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anyone who goes into the military makes a sacrifice. whether it be time away from family,career, friends or your hometown. whether you see combat or not is beyond the vet's control. you are still aveteran and you did make some sacrifice. some just make a bigger sacrifice than others
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:17 PM
 
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This is only an issue to those who view this topic with ignorance. The entire team wins and loses as one, correct? Or do those who serve in more direct roles get a win regardless for the sake of stroking their ego.

The same way that not every grunt/combat troop is a player, there is very little difference in those who do not have the role to participate in direct roles.
I think you are ignorant on how the sports industry work, so just stop it.
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:20 PM
 
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anyone who goes into the military makes a sacrifice. whether it be time away from family,career, friends or your hometown. whether you see combat or not is beyond the vet's control. you are still aveteran and you did make some sacrifice. some JUST make a bigger sacrifice than others
thats a slap in the face to those who truly faced danger IMO
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