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Old 11-14-2013, 03:20 PM
 
Location: PA
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As patriots we are sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Obama being a socialist would obviously be a domestic enemy of the constitution. Would you support a revolt.

We must first define a domestic enemy of the constitution. Obama, congress and the courts, kinda ignore the constitution with certain loop holes and are "define the role of government" based on what we already have.

Laws were created and have been adjusted over time, since they are not RIGHTS that are effected they are laws on the land.

Now a slow erode of the rights we do have in the constitution vs the overnight sort of a LAW removal would be different. Detaining anyone without habus corpus would be a domestic enemy of the rights of AMERICAN citizens. See the Patriot Act and other privacy rights allowed by the constitution and right of a trail and the list of offenses against such citizens. Obama and congress are guilty of this alone should be enough to vote them out and the laws they created. The issue is when a LAW is created that removes your right to a trail and you are detained for how ever long without a trail is not American justice or freedom. See National_Defense_Authorization_Act
This is a fine line to a freedom republic to a dictatorship. Revolts start in the middle of all men, it do they have the means and ability to peacefully make changes and bring about their grievances to the united states government or do they not. It's the question as more and more American's could be labelled terrorists could they be thrown in jail without a trail. A physical revolt is needed to restore free people after all other options are played out. A physical revolt would not have complete military take over and or a broken America. Where the military would have to choose sides to defend the constitution or follow orders that go against it.
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Old 11-14-2013, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Wow..I'm shocked it took this long for you libs to pull out the race card. I'm disappointed!
Oh, it's always on the top of your deck, stop projecting.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:28 PM
 
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Let him be exposed for the imbecile and fraud he is and then let him try to govern without the support of the people and without any respect from the rest of our elected leaders.
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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No.

You are not "patriots" ... just cry baby sore losers.

What you propose is illegal and unconstitutional. You seek to overthrow the man democratically elected by the majority of US voters.

Congress is empowered to impeach and remove presidents. That is the proper way according to the US Constitution.
I do not support the notion of a revolt or revolution, because this is how anarchists inspire change; as opposed to civilized people. Our founding fathers were much more civil-minded than we are today.

It's true the President won, except we know for a fact that he won on a litany of lies. The liberal press were unquestioning, and derelict in their duties. They shelved their conscience, and made a deal with the devil. Just like Lance Armstrong, Hitler, and Arnold Schwarzenegger cheated, for different reasons, for their own benefit and unethically; Rendering the vote invalidated.

Winning on lies, is not a win.

Congress may be empowered, but they (both sides) are only two halves of the same whole. They are elitists, the new royals, and they are actors playing on a grand stage for all of us dupes who believe anything they say.

Some of us have had the sense to wake up. 40% of us are totally disconnected from reality.

I respect Obama for his achievement; however, I detest him for being the polar opposite of what he presented himself as being. Now you can see the change in him, the nervous tremble in his voice. His speeches are just a shell of his former strength. He, is a snake backing into his hole at the moment.

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Old 11-14-2013, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Try reading it and come to a conclusion. The USSR and the USA have two different constitutions - which country faltered last century to the point of dissolution? The end game of socialism is communism...ergo, the answer to your query.
Socialist candidates were getting hundreds of thousands of votes in the U.S. long before there was a USSR.
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:41 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Originally Posted by armory
Try reading it and come to a conclusion. The USSR and the USA have two different constitutions - which country faltered last century to the point of dissolution? The end game of socialism is communism...ergo, the answer to your query.

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Socialist candidates were getting hundreds of thousands of votes in the U.S. long before there was a USSR.
Except that up until now the majority had enough common sense not to add to those votes. It's about like saying there have always been idiots; but that doesn't mean we should become one.

Socialism, totalitarianism, authoritarianism, liberal progressivism, Marxism, are all tweaked forms of communism based on a centralized government.
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:02 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Another new troll proposing an armed revolution

Naw... A few dozen well placed .30 cal, to set good examples.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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Nonsense. He's not a socialist, so there is no reason for any kind of revolt. Just because you don't like his policies doesn't mean that he has done anything egregiously "un-Constitutional." Recommending violence to unseat a President who was democratically elected and has not contravened the Constitution in any notable manner is the opposite of patriotic. We have a this concept for replacing Presidents if their policies are not favored...it's called "elections."
Please don't get all "factual" on these folks, now!
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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As patriots we are sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Obama being a socialist would obviously be a domestic enemy of the constitution. Would you support a revolt.
No.

[but I'll watch it on YouTube]
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:48 PM
 
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As patriots we are sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Obama being a socialist would obviously be a domestic enemy of the constitution. Would you support a revolt.
I don't see how. Where in the constitution is capitalism proscribed? Socialism is acceptable under the constitution. The constitution specifies as POLITICAL system, not an ECONOMIC system.
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