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Old 11-09-2013, 10:50 PM
 
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A person of good self esteem built on a solid foundation of love and support ARE by definition successful already. But there is a much better chance of financial success as well.
I repeat... Self esteem comes from success, not the other way around.

Self esteem that comes from just believing you're "all that and a bag of chips" is little more than narcissism. True self esteem comes from recognizing just exactly who you are, the good and the bad, and overcoming the bad, to succeed. It requires truly understanding and tackling the difficult, persevering until you come out on top. Whether it's learning to ride a bike, conquering algebra, overcoming bad habits, the "what" doesn't matter, what matters is whether you truly made it on your own.
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:52 PM
 
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It's called income inequality. It's been going on for twenty plus years. So no there is no top end for making money, but it needs to become more equalized again for a successful country.
No, it does not.

It's the other way around. Stop trying to make it happen via politics, turn the people free, let them rise or fall on their own... and they will succeed.
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:56 PM
 
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You are correct. Taking someone's fortune away from them doesn't help anyone. The fortunate need to decrease their profits a bit, to raise the pay of those making them fortunate and both benefit.
No, they do NOT. It is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Nothing you can do, whine, or try to force onto them will improve ANYTHING.

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People in poverty would like nothing more than to be productive, to have the ability to raise their families with good food, proper educations and good family values.
Then start teaching them how. If you don't know how success is achieved, then you're part of the problem.

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They want jobs, but those were offshored for higher profits for those with fortunes.
Then stop making it more financially beneficial to offshore production. Stop taxing and regulating our economy to death. IT IS THAT SIMPLE.

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They done want to be over taxed to pay for corporate tax benefits. So basically, I agreed with your whole statement! How about that!
You didn't agree with much at all. Nor did you even understand it.
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:01 PM
 
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Can you think of a single human being in history that was wealthy without help of any kind. All alone, just working hard? Seriously. Now that is plain stupid on a stick! Usually wealth comes from many many sources and others. From slaves, to paid workers, from scientist, or engineers, from their office staff to their production force, to the government that made it possible to transport their goods to market. It is literally impossible to become wealthy on your own. You can invent the possibility of wealth in your own head....ie bill gates, or Ben Franklin, but you don't become wealthy until others get involved.


I cannot imagine being so blinded by a radical ideology, that you'd crank out this crap. It simply has NO RELEVANCE TO ANYTHING IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE.
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:04 PM
 
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No that isn't what I am saying. It is a symbiotic relationship, no man is an island. All of those falling on the economic scale deserve credit, and varying amounts of the wealth depending on that how much they helped, or the value of what they contributed. The income inequity is no longer allowing for that. It is the right who assumes the wealthy somehow got rich because they "worked hard" and that is simply not true. Also, today where there is so much generational wealth, it would even be more true.
You are missing the single most crucial bit of understanding in the entire universe of human existence. It must ALL be voluntary.
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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It's called income inequality. It's been going on for twenty plus years. So no there is no top end for making money, but it needs to become more equalized again for a successful country.
Really? more equalized?

If you want a successful country do the following.

Return schools and education to the states, allow school vouchers, school choice, chatter schools and kick the unions out.

Return to a precious metal back currency to end inflation.

Have a fair tax and trim the federal government and end 80% of the programs and agencies.

Control the border and don't give amnesty, why are we import poverty by the millions? there is no reason and it hurt the working class the hardest..
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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No that isn't what I am saying. It is a symbiotic relationship, no man is an island. All of those falling on the economic scale deserve credit, and varying amounts of the wealth depending on that how much they helped, or the value of what they contributed. The income inequity is no longer allowing for that. It is the right who assumes the wealthy somehow got rich because they "worked hard" and that is simply not true. Also, today where there is so much generational wealth, it would even be more true.
This whole you did not build it, you did not work hard bit its a lie, but not a candle to inheriting wealth lie.
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:14 PM
 
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I live in this America.

Senator Armstrong I have a dream speech - YouTube
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:16 PM
 
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Really? more equalized?

If you want a successful country do the following.

Return schools and education to the states, allow school vouchers, school choice, chatter schools and kick the unions out.

Return to a precious metal back currency to end inflation.

Have a fair tax and trim the federal government and end 80% of the programs and agencies.

Control the border and don't give amnesty, why are we import poverty by the millions? there is no reason and it hurt the working class the hardest..
You have school choice. Parents can send their kids to any private school they want. Why blame unions. They have nothing to do with the curriculum or where kids go to school. This is up to the school board which unions have to say in.
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Old 11-10-2013, 12:03 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Why is that? Why do you care what wealthy people have?
Maybe you should study what happens in history when one group has most of the money and the other does not. It leads to violence and riots. It seems you could care less though. Why do you care so much how wealthy have could it be that you look up to the rich and view them as a god to you?
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