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Old 11-09-2013, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Gurbie View Post
The GOP establishment has HAD it with losing elections they should have won, because of far-right weirdo candidates with no general appeal. So the empire is fighting back.

One of the strategies, as reported in Politico, is to back moderate GOP candidates in primary races by flooding the zone with Super PAC money:

GOP SUPER PACS VS. THE TEA PARTY | POLITICO

The GOP Civil War is on!
It's the war of the billionaires.

Koch , Murdoch and friends have the back of the tea party.
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:36 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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We will push the spineless so called moderates out. The can go join the progressives in the demacratic party (you guys happy i didnt use demacrats)... Now stop using teabaggers on us..
I'm a democrat and I NEVER use the label "teabaggers" because quite frankly it is impolite and it references a quasi-sexual act. I would like to see a little more respect and civility in the discussions about politics. I like to use terms like "supporters of the Tea Party" or sometimes "Tea Partiers."

Personally I am more of a coffee person myself, but I enjoy a good cup of tea now and then.

To address your displeasure with the "moderates" in the Republican Party, I get the impression that you yearn for a GOP that is ideologically "pure" and no candidates stray from a true and staunch conservative philosophy. Some staunch conservatives believe that the reason why McCain in '08 and Romney in '12 lost was because they were wishy-washy middle of the road moderates. I think you are mistaken if you suppose that the Republican Party is going to grow and expand (and win back the White House!) by implementing such a ideology.

I believe the "big wigs" in the GOP want to start doing better at the voting booth ... and want to attract some of the blocs of voters the Democrats have gained. This can only be accomplished by listening to these voters and modifying some of the positions that hurt the GOP in the polls.
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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The GOP can't control it's monster; so, it has to kill it. The Tea Party is going to be as hard to kill off as an infestation of bedbugs.
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:56 PM
 
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I need to buy more popcorn. Seriously this will get crazy.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:16 PM
 
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I'm a democrat and I NEVER use the label "teabaggers" because quite frankly it is impolite and it references a quasi-sexual act. I would like to see a little more respect and civility in the discussions about politics. I like to use terms like "supporters of the Tea Party" or sometimes "Tea Partiers."

Personally I am more of a coffee person myself, but I enjoy a good cup of tea now and then.

To address your displeasure with the "moderates" in the Republican Party, I get the impression that you yearn for a GOP that is ideologically "pure" and no candidates stray from a true and staunch conservative philosophy. Some staunch conservatives believe that the reason why McCain in '08 and Romney in '12 lost was because they were wishy-washy middle of the road moderates. I think you are mistaken if you suppose that the Republican Party is going to grow and expand (and win back the White House!) by implementing such a ideology.


I believe the "big wigs" in the GOP want to start doing better at the voting booth ... and want to attract some of the blocs of voters the Democrats have gained. This can only be accomplished by listening to these voters and modifying some of the positions that hurt the GOP in the polls.
I believe the republican party can have a big tent but needs to hold to whatever line it decides to do and not cave. The problem is the leadership caves too easly and the dems dont. They hold firm. I dont care what line the republicans take as long as they dont cave just because one poll says they lost. So the republicans need new leadership and the only way that happens is if the tea party wing wins.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:19 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by Gurbie View Post
The GOP establishment has HAD it with losing elections they should have won, because of far-right weirdo candidates with no general appeal. So the empire is fighting back.

One of the strategies, as reported in Politico, is to back moderate GOP candidates in primary races by flooding the zone with Super PAC money:

GOP SUPER PACS VS. THE TEA PARTY | POLITICO

The GOP Civil War is on!
Long overdue. The TP needs to become a 3rd party, and learn the lesson Perot folks did. It is the quickest way to not be relevent.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:20 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I bet they can primary Tea Party runners in New England and some of the west coast.
Or Alabama last Tuesday! SWEET!!!
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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This.


I didn't leave the republican party.... They left me. (and went left. WAYYYY LEFT)
Me, too. It's unlikely they'll win me back.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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Me, too. It's unlikely they'll win me back.
lol, I can't believe you guys.

The GOP would never let Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Dole or Reagan into the party today.

And you say they've gone left.

They've gone right.

The tea party will take the GOP right off a cliff.

So of course I'm rooting for them to succeed.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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lol, I can't believe you guys.

The GOP would never let Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Dole or Reagan into the party today.

And you say they've gone left.

They've gone right.

The tea party will take the GOP right off a cliff.

So of course I'm rooting for them to succeed.

The surest sign of the irrelevancy of today's GOP is to hear its voters say how the party is full of RINO's or has "gone too far left", the demographics prove these are the wailing cries of dinosaurs sinking in pools of tar.

It will have to reinvent itself or face extinction.
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