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So you are okay with businesses price gouging in a crisis? You have no objection to paying $40 for a bottle of water in a disaster zone...or letting gas companies charge $100 during a Middle East crisis?
I'm pleased we have a gov't that won't let those kinds of abuses happen. The insurance companies were gouging their customers and, often, not following through on the things they promised.
You can't have it both ways.
You can't have 46 cent bottles of water when supply is good, if you don't allow $4 bottles of water when the supply is limited.
So you are okay with businesses price gouging in a crisis? You have no objection to paying $40 for a bottle of water in a disaster zone...or letting gas companies charge $100 during a Middle East crisis?
I'm pleased we have a gov't that won't let those kinds of abuses happen. The insurance companies were gouging their customers and, often, not following through on the things they promised.
Abnormally high prices reflect a product's scarcity which is a signal for entrepreneurs to supply more of that product to that area. Leave those prices alone and soon you'll see an increase in supply and a drop in price. Have government interfere with the price and you'll find that that product will remain scarce. Greed is a virtue, government coercion is a vice.
It does exactly this. If you insist it doesn't please provide your argument.
Sure. I am a software engineer working on contract. *I* pay my own insurance.
But even when I was working as a regular employee-my employer paid MY insurance. Family rates were paid entirely by me. Most places I have worked were like that.
I'm pleased we have a gov't that won't let those kinds of abuses happen. The insurance companies were gouging their customers and, often, not following through on the things they promised.
YES! It was ridiculous that the insurance companies had the highest profit margins and returns on capital in all of the known world--higher than Apple and IBM, more than Ford or Toyota, well above Kellogg's, WalMart, Procter & Gamble, Ebay, Abercrombie & Fitch, Exxon, Chevron, Microsoft and all the rest.
Republicans were too busy spending Clinton's surplus on schools, hospitals, and infrastucure in Iraq than worrying about pesky little things like American healthcare reform.
1. How proud you must be, to have a 19-year-old child still dependent on someone else.
2. You always could get insurance with pre-existing. As for affordable, I don't believe you.
3. Who pays for this?
4. Which hospitals? The ones dropping those insured by ObamaCare?
5. They've always competed.
6. Your communist colors are showing. The government has NO right to set the profit margin of any private business
7. No charge? How delusional are you? Do you think those places that screen do it all voluntarily? Hardly. Someone ELSE pays for it. See #6
As for you last comment, how would this have helped your mother? If she had money for insurance, why didn't she have it? And if she didn't have enough money for care, there have ALWAYS been places for low income folks to go.
1. Shrug. I have a 19 year old child just getting on his feet, he makes poo for income. I expect that will improve. I also have 7 other children. I suppose I could have singled out my 18 year old instead WHO IS IN HIGH SCHOOL, but went with the 19 yr old who is more representative. We dont want an accident destroying the potential of 19-26 yr olds who may be going to college.
2. LOL...oh my. I make 6 figures...insurance with pre-existing conditions was out of my reach....and Im in the top 10% for income.
3. affordable is relative. I will pay under 1K/month for a platinum plan. If I made under 90K I would pay 600/mo, and dropping as subsidies kick in. Yes this is affordable.
4. Sigh, your ignorance of the underlying changes that obamacare makes to improved hospital care has nothing to do with the ones dropping obamacare....something you'd know if you would actually study up on something you want to critisize.
5. No not really. They've always given you 2-3 choices at a job, and trying to compare the apples to oranges to pears in the prior market was challenging at best. That was not competitive. Look at some of the plans people bought thinking they were great plans, only to find out they were tissue paper plans.
6. So I suppose you're against usury laws as well? I have news for you, government limiting profit when the business is controlling life or death is VERY appropriate as this is not a area in which the normal customer/provider rules apply. If you call me a socialist for it, hey I am OK with that, even communist. you don't believe in democracy either if you support the constitution as we're a republic. We COULD be more democratic as a nation, and you know it. We choose not too. I feel that we need to be socialist in some areas, capitalists in others, and that we need to be smart about which one is used where. In other words, I support intelligent well thought out government that adapts to change. If we had a capitalistic healthcare system that was delivering health care at a reasonable price I'd be against meddling with it. Sadly we haven't. And we are trying tostill make it work instead of providing socialized single payer like almost every damn developed country in the world has done.
7. Its at no direct CHARGE. I didn't say it was free, or that it was at no cost. Both those phrases are used inappropriately, no charge is more accurate. I actually put some thought into how I phrased this. By being at no charge people are more likely to use it-but I assure you those things aren't free, and i am very aware of that.
I love your last comment as it reflects a complete disconnect from reality. So lets cover it.
If she had money for insurance? I didn't say she did. SHE DIDN'T. She was living below the poverty level just like what? 20% of our population does today? Oh but there are ALWAYS places for low income people to go? This shows you aren't poor....the only place for them to go is the emergency room, and I got news for you, thats not free, its insanely expensive, and even if you're poor they go after you for it. Thus, a bit difficulty breathing-you don't go in, you don't get seen. And if it kills you, well tough. Every year or so you might find a free clinic open up in the country, maybe its better in a city. And sliding scale places exist-good luck though if you have anything serious. I don't think you comprehend what medical care is like for a lot of people in this country.
Abnormally high prices reflect a product's scarcity which is a signal for entrepreneurs to supply more of that product to that area. Leave those prices alone and soon you'll see an increase in supply and a drop in price. Have government interfere with the price and you'll find that that product will remain scarce. Greed is a virtue, government coercion is a vice.
What we now have is a mess with the goal to provide for Wall Street as opposed to producers and consumers.
I've noted many times that taxing food is IMO immoral but so is making it an investment commodity. It's O.K. when you can have a farmer buy corn this year for supplies to feed his livestock next year so that he can get a better grasp on his future costs but it does not in any way shape or form make sense to allow a Wall Street firm that will never actually buy corn to invest in those markets.
Sure. I am a software engineer working on contract. *I* pay my own insurance.
But even when I was working as a regular employee-my employer paid MY insurance. Family rates were paid entirely by me. Most places I have worked were like that.
Anecdotal experience does not make a person wrong. Just because what was said did not apply to you does not automatically make it wrong. Many pay nothing for their family coverage. My wife doesn't. I pay a portion.
Republicans were too busy spending Clinton's surplus on schools, hospitals, and infrastucure in Iraq than worrying about pesky little things like American healthcare reform.
Believe or not some of that money went into securing a single payer healthcare system in Iraq.
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