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Old 11-13-2013, 05:22 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Funny how mainstream news is reporting it as bad news and Sebelius avoiding cameras.


As NBC News put it a few minutes ago, "Barely enough to fill a Football Stadium".
I caught that! They said let's put this in perspective; this is less than half the people who pay to see a baseball game on any given night. This a glaring statement from the Obama cheer leading squad. MSNBC is still quite silent about it, preferring to attack and blame the Republicans; as if they ever had any involvement in this thing. Now the Republicans are being attacked because they won't fix it

I believe there's no shortage of meds on Capitol Hill!

If it wasn't so serious it would be quite funny. I mean it isn't like the Dems weren't warned about passing something before knowing what was in it... right?

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Old 11-13-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I rarely do this. You did not get better coverage for $3600 less with no subsidies than what you were previously paying. It never happened.
My existing policy is $1400 versus $1100 for the new one. I admit I am a special case. I get coverage in a retiree group plan from my employer. Since everyone in the group has one foot in the grave the risk pool is pretty risky and the rates are high. But, like other group policies there are no limits, no pre-existing etc. It is a $0 deductible with 30% coinsurance for most things, $20/$50 office visits and a 3500/7000 max out of pocket. My new Obamacare policy is also $0 deductible, $20/$40, 20% coinsurance, and a 2000/4000 out of pocket maximum. I do have a smaller network on the new plan, but I rarely go to the doc and the ones I do go to are all on the new plan.
 
Old 11-13-2013, 06:04 PM
 
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Years ago I was a diehard Republican. I would follow them off a cliff and defend everything they did even if I knew it was wrong. Hell, I even made up lies to defend them.

I started being honest with myself and realized how stupid I must look to other people with a whole lot more knowledge of just what is really happening in this world. I quit defending them and was completely honest with myself. It was like getting a monkey off my back. I now do believe the saying, The Truth Will Set You Free.

Government healthcare does not work, it's a part of Socialism, and if you know your history, there has never been a socialist country that survived.

And if you think Medicare is great, you know very little about it.

Set yourself free!!
Only fools fall in love with politicians.

My political philosophy is constitutional conservatism.

My belief is to follow the truth as well.

The "true believers" cannot believe that "the one" has deceived them.
 
Old 11-13-2013, 06:20 PM
 
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Obama supporter miffed at botched healthcare rollout


Margaret Davis favors wider access to insurance, but under the Affordable Care Act she'd see her premiums rise 88% for inferior coverage.


Obama supporter miffed at botched healthcare rollout - latimes.com
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