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Old 11-14-2013, 09:23 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The Federal Obamacare website opened nearly seven weeks ago, and promptly flopped on its face. It's not even news any more that very few people have been able to get it to work. And that's completely aside from the disaster that is Obamacare itself - "insurance" policies that offer less than what many people had before, costs more, requires far higher payments before it kicks in - and penalizes those who don't use it anyway.

But when the website rollout bombed, one would assume that the White House programmers would quickly examine the various problems, decide what solutions had to be implemented, start rewriting things, start testing and adjusting, etc. - the normal correction cycle needed for buggy software.

The President promised recently that it would be up and running correctly by the end of November. Now nearly seven weeks have gone by since the abortive opening, with barely two weeks left before the promised it's-all-fixed date.

But in a news conference yesterday, the following announcement was made:

White House press secretary Jay Carney said the president is trying to reassure congressional Democrats that he will decide on a solution “sooner rather than later.”
(White House tries to salvage Obamacare, Democrats in distress - Washington Times)

Huh?

"Deciding on a solution" is supposed to happen early in the correction cycle, shortly after it's determined exactly what the problems are. Then the rest of the time is normally spent writing and rewriting code to put the solution in place, testing what you wrote, fixing a few more things, doing overall tests with large numbers of users, adjusting and finalizing, etc., before declaring the system ready for prime time.

Now we find that they haven't even decided what solution to begin implementing yet?


Is this White House trying to invent new kinds of incompetence that no one has ever seen before?

 
Old 11-14-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: it depends
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Originally Posted by OICU812 View Post
Be sure you ask your primary care facility and doctors if they are participating in that network before you jump in with both feet; the same for any specialists you visit.
Great advice.

You might end up in a clinic in a converted school bus, where the tongue depressers taste like fudgesickles and later they sell naked pictures of you online.
 
Old 11-14-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
The Federal Obamacare website opened nearly seven weeks ago, and promptly flopped on its face. It's not even news any more that very few people have been able to get it to work. And that's completely aside from the disaster that is Obamacare itself - "insurance" policies that offer less than what many people had before, costs more, requires far higher payments before it kicks in - and penalizes those who don't use it anyway.

But when the website rollout bombed, one would assume that the White House programmers would quickly examine the various problems, decide what solutions had to be implemented, start rewriting things, start testing and adjusting, etc. - the normal correction cycle needed for buggy software.

The President promised recently that it would be up and running correctly by the end of November. Now nearly seven weeks have gone by since the abortive opening, with barely two weeks left before the promised it's-all-fixed date.

But in a news conference yesterday, the following announcement was made:

White House press secretary Jay Carney said the president is trying to reassure congressional Democrats that he will decide on a solution “sooner rather than later.”
(White House tries to salvage Obamacare, Democrats in distress - Washington Times)

Huh?

"Deciding on a solution" is supposed to happen early in the correction cycle, shortly after it's determined exactly what the problems are. Then the rest of the time is normally spent writing and rewriting code to put the solution in place, testing what you wrote, fixing a few more things, doing overall tests with large numbers of users, adjusting and finalizing, etc., before declaring the system ready for prime time.

Now we find that they haven't even decided what solution to begin implementing yet?


Is this White House trying to invent new kinds of incompetence that no one has ever seen before?
Any solution he comes up with will b based on lies on top of lies
 
Old 11-14-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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Exclamation ObamaCare is a terribly written and destructive law

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Originally Posted by marcopolo View Post
Breaking news, Obama to talk about ACA at 11:30 AM today Thursday 11/14/2013. Looks like we will try to convert his big lie into the truth, "If you like your plan you can keep it."

Unfortunately, it is too late for that. Health care reform needs total, bipartisan reform.
We have employers and insurers who dropped employees/customer plans, it's not going to be so easy to simply "get them back" just like that, because so many other parts of ObamaCare mandate what plans must do. Is Obama going to sign legislation doing away with free birth control or preexisting conditions, or stop taking that $700 billion from Medicare? Of course not.

Those old plans are probably gone forever and employers and individuals are going to have to go back to square one and renegotiate their plans all over again. And the doctors and hospitals who opted out of anything to do with ObamaCare are not going to flip back either. Obama has truly ****ed up our entire health care system. It's not as if we did not warn everyone, years ago, that ObamaCare was a terribly written and destructive law.
 
Old 11-14-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Any solution he comes up with will b based on lies on top of lies
He will announce people can keep non compliant plans foe another year. Since the rates for 2015 will still be in the process of calculation, they could be kept low, but not as low as they should be.
 
Old 11-14-2013, 09:35 AM
 
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Great advice.

You might end up in a clinic in a converted school bus, where the tongue depressers taste like fudgesickles and later they sell naked pictures of you online.
I was looking at plans in my state, for my city, and it listed about 250 doctors for a bronze plan, which is freaking crazy because we don't have that many doctors in my city, and many of them had these funky foreign names, and none of them were in the phone book in my area.

This makes me wonder where the hell they came up with all those doctors. Were they in some national pool for some third rate medical system, or did the web site just go bonkers on me. either way I am really worried about what the hell is going on, and my trust in this ACA is completely gone.
 
Old 11-14-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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He will announce people can keep non compliant plans foe another year. Since the rates for 2015 will still be in the process of calculation, they could be kept low, but not as low as they should be.
Gee, sounds like maybe the president and Sen. Reid should have listened to those Tea Party republicans who wanted to delay parts, or all of the law for a year, hmmmmm?
 
Old 11-14-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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Any solution he comes up with will b based on lies on top of lies
Band-aid, on top of band-aid. It's like slapping a band-aid on top of band-aid, to stop a leak in the dam that threatens to wash away the towns below.

Last edited by Ibginnie; 11-14-2013 at 10:35 AM.. Reason: hotlinking
 
Old 11-14-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: DFW
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He will announce people can keep non compliant plans foe another year. Since the rates for 2015 will still be in the process of calculation, they could be kept low, but not as low as they should be.
So you're saying that as Emperor he can just change the law because he so desires ?

Didn't the Dems blame the Shutdown on a purposed delay similar to this ?
 
Old 11-14-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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He will announce people can keep non compliant plans foe another year. Since the rates for 2015 will still be in the process of calculation, they could be kept low, but not as low as they should be.
So he will delay breaking the most important promise he made, for a year?

Last edited by Ibginnie; 11-14-2013 at 10:35 AM.. Reason: not good not good at all
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