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Do you have any original thoughts there, cotton? Anyway, that was last week's talking point, no? I believe the memo said this week we talk about "Obama said I could keep my doctor, but my doctor is not on the Obamacare plan."
I guess 'mixed' is accurate, but sounds more bad than good to me.
At this stage of the process, 'mixed' or 'a work in progress' isn't good enough. "Despite the Obama administration's team of technicians working around the clock, it's not clear if the site will be able to handle the surge of applicants expected by the Dec. 23 deadline to enroll for coverage starting at the beginning of the year."
Well, whatever the drivers health care costs are starting to fall in line. Here is a story fresh this morning on CNBC. While I doubt you will read it, it does have some encouraging signs that the runaway costs in this sector may be seeing sustainable control pressures.
The rollout of President Obama's health care law may have deeply disappointed its supporters, but on at least one front, the Affordable Care Act is beating expectations: its cost.
Over the next few years, the government is expected to spend billions of dollars less than originally projected on the law, analysts said, with both the Medicaid expansion and the subsidies for private insurance plans ending up less expensive than anticipated.
Already, the Congressional Budget Office has quietly erased hundreds of billions of dollars from its projections. It now estimates that Medicare spending in 2020 will be $137 billion lower than it thought in 2010, a drop of 15 percent; Medicaid spending will be $85 billion, or 16 percent, lower; and private health insurance premiums are expected to be about 9 percent lower.
Taking on millions of new medicaid subscribers and they will save money ?
The government cannot control costs..they can only control what they reimburse when it comes to medicare and medicaid.
Medicaid spent $432 billion in 2011.
It's quickly catching up to medicare spending.
The 10 year projection is $795 billion by 2021.
Enrollment growth projected to rise 4% annually for the next 10 years.
This is from the Office of the Actuary.
And they took expansion under Obamacare into projections.
The CBO is given a set of numbers and is asked.."Does this work?"
If the CBO says no then they are presented with a new set of numbers.
How many times was Obamacare numbers giving to the CBO until the CBO came back and said yes ?
I'll take what the Office of the Actuary says over what the CBO says any day of the week.
And from your own link..the economy is doing this:
But those are responsible for only a tiny portion of the slowing rise of health care costs; other changes, like rising deductibles and copays that discourage some people from seeking extra services, play a bigger role, analysts say. Still, the Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonprofit research group, estimates that the weak economy accounts for as much as three-quarters of the slowdown in the growth of spending on health care.
This is disgusting. Health insurers who profit from extortion of the sick and injured are protected from loss while millions who are going to be digging deeper into their pockets to pay their premiums get no relief. How about we hold harmless the working people for once instead of pandering to the wealthy. If Obama (or anyone in DC) really wanted to do something to promote affordable health care, he would let the insurers go bankrupt and then step in with a tax-funded, universal system that excluded them completely.
What did you expect from a law that was written by lobbyists from the insurance companies? Obama and the Democrats got paid off, face it. Republicans also failed by not proposing something more substantial than the usual sell across state lines and tort reform ideas.
This is disgusting. Health insurers who profit from extortion of the sick and injured are protected from loss while millions who are going to be digging deeper into their pockets to pay their premiums get no relief. How about we hold harmless the working people for once instead of pandering to the wealthy. If Obama (or anyone in DC) really wanted to do something to promote affordable health care, he would let the insurers go bankrupt and then step in with a tax-funded, universal system that excluded them completely.
Boy were you hoodwinked. They HIRED the insurance industry to write the damn bill.
Liz Fowler for one.
Baucus praised her for putting together the framework that turned into Obamacare.
Do you think the insurance industry would write themselves out of business ?
They are winners no matter what.
And the WH made the direct deal with big Pharma.
Obama was courted by them going back as far as 2006.
Next time..follow the money instead of listening to politicians talk.
Get the real scoop on who comes out the winner.
Here's the 2006 article on the growth of the "Obama machine".
He referred to himself as a "Progressive" back then. http://archive.is/T4Ga
Progressive candidates generally have a harder time raising money, he said, and at times some of them will “trim their sails” on behalf of the people who are financing them
Boy were you hoodwinked. They HIRED the insurance industry to write the damn bill.
Liz Fowler for one.
Baucus praised her for putting together the framework that turned into Obamacare.
Do you think the insurance industry would write themselves out of business ?
They are winners no matter what.
And the WH made the direct deal with big Pharma.
Obama was courted by them going back as far as 2006.
Next time..follow the money instead of listening to politicians talk.
Get the real scoop on who comes out the winner.
This is disgusting. Health insurers who profit from extortion of the sick and injured are protected from loss while millions who are going to be digging deeper into their pockets to pay their premiums get no relief. How about we hold harmless the working people for once instead of pandering to the wealthy. If Obama (or anyone in DC) really wanted to do something to promote affordable health care, he would let the insurers go bankrupt and then step in with a tax-funded, universal system that excluded them completely.
That's the spirit, Mr. Ponderosa! Thank you for pulling the curtain back on President Obama.
I think we can agree on this: health care reform needs massive reform.
What did you expect from a law that was written by lobbyists from the insurance companies? Obama and the Democrats got paid off, face it. Republicans also failed by not proposing something more substantial than the usual sell across state lines and tort reform ideas.
Not that it matters, but the R's also proposed tax deductions, HSA incentives, $ for state-run high risk pools, easier coverage portability, and other measures. All rejected out-of-hand by the D's.
Not that it matters, but the R's also proposed tax deductions, HSA incentives, $ for state-run high risk pools, easier coverage portability, and other measures. All rejected out-of-hand by the D's.
All of which are nothing but indirect handouts to insurers. The major failing of Obamacare is the capitulation on a public option. A public option could have undercut insurers and opened the path to eliminating profit, greed, and extortion from the equation for good. Of course, and that is why it never saw the light of day.
All of which are nothing but indirect handouts to insurers. The major failing of Obamacare is the capitulation on a public option. A public option could have undercut insurers and opened the path to eliminating profit, greed, and extortion from the equation for good. Of course, and that is why it never saw the light of day.
HSA is direct spending and tax deferred.
The Dems passed the bill with ZERO Republican votes.
If they wanted a public option there would have been one.
Remember we have a FIRE economy.
F got theirs and RE got theirs.
Now it's I's turn.
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