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Old 12-06-2013, 05:08 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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One think tank says the Affordable Care Act is responsible for about 25 percent of a projected drop in health costs. This is only the beginning. It certainly has the expected initial glitches inherent in every new program. The kinks, bugs will be worked out, and again, you Pubs will be back to picking your noses while you chase your tails. This with egg on your faces.

Obamacare projected to cost hundreds of billions less- MSN Money

 
Old 12-06-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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One think tank says the Affordable Care Act is responsible for about 25 percent of a projected drop in health costs. This is only the beginning. It certainly has the expected initial glitches inherent in every new program. The kinks, bugs will be worked out, and again, you Pubs will be back to picking your noses while you chase your tails. This with egg on your faces.

Obamacare projected to cost hundreds of billions less- MSN Money
..and it also has not compromised the latest job numbers...much to the dismay of the the sky is falling right wing.
 
Old 12-06-2013, 05:33 PM
 
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One think tank says the Affordable Care Act is responsible for about 25 percent of a projected drop in health costs. This is only the beginning. It certainly has the expected initial glitches inherent in every new program. The kinks, bugs will be worked out, and again, you Pubs will be back to picking your noses while you chase your tails. This with egg on your faces.

Obamacare projected to cost hundreds of billions less- MSN Money
'... most economists believe that the lion's share of the reduction is due to the sluggish economy -- making Americans far more careful when it comes to making decisions regarding when or if to spend money on medical care...'

How about imposing a depression to further lower health costs.
 
Old 12-06-2013, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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'... most economists believe that the lion's share of the reduction is due to the sluggish economy -- making Americans far more careful when it comes to making decisions regarding when or if to spend money on medical care...'

How about imposing a depression to further lower health costs.
Favorite con tactic: quoting from context. Here is the whole paragraph for the unbiased who seek truth and not right wing talking points.

While most economists believe that the lion's share of the reduction is due to the sluggish economy -- making Americans far more careful when it comes to making decisions regarding when or if to spend money on medical care -- others believe that some of the plans built into the ACA designed to get people to spend less may actually be working.
 
Old 12-06-2013, 06:05 PM
 
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Lol.....I wasn't a kid in the 40's, you know.

I graduated from college a few years after the market crash of '87, so ironically, times haven't changed that much.
Give yourself time about 7 years ago I use to say the same thing. Now I'm 60 and seems like it has changed a lot. Give yourself time.
 
Old 12-06-2013, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Default Message from Gov Healtcare.gov team

For those of you who said it couldn't be fixed we have this from the CMS team today:

As of noon today, more than 3.7 million consumers have visited HealthCare.gov this week (from midnight Sunday until noon Friday) to learn about their health insurance options, create an account, learn about financial help, compare options and select a plan.

This week, the site remained stable and experienced no unscheduled downtimes. The average error rate was 0.77% and response time averaged well under 1 second, two of our key metrics in determining site performance.


Read it and weep, Pubs.
 
Old 12-06-2013, 06:20 PM
 
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Favorite con tactic: quoting from context. Here is the whole paragraph for the unbiased who seek truth and not right wing talking points.

While most economists believe that the lion's share of the reduction is due to the sluggish economy -- making Americans far more careful when it comes to making decisions regarding when or if to spend money on medical care -- others believe that some of the plans built into the ACA designed to get people to spend less may actually be working.
If MOST believe one thing, clearly OTHERS believe something else.
 
Old 12-06-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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For those of you who said it couldn't be fixed we have this from the CMS team today:

As of noon today, more than 3.7 million consumers have visited HealthCare.gov this week (from midnight Sunday until noon Friday) to learn about their health insurance options, create an account, learn about financial help, compare options and select a plan.

This week, the site remained stable and experienced no unscheduled downtimes. The average error rate was 0.77% and response time averaged well under 1 second, two of our key metrics in determining site performance.


Read it and weep, Pubs.
4 million signed up for plans this week alone ?

This article says 3.7 million visited the site this week. No mention that they all signed up for plans though.
Your source ?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/07/us...ange.html?_r=0
 
Old 12-06-2013, 06:26 PM
 
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For those of you who said it couldn't be fixed we have this from the CMS team today:

As of noon today, more than 3.7 million consumers have visited HealthCare.gov this week (from midnight Sunday until noon Friday) to learn about their health insurance options, create an account, learn about financial help, compare options and select a plan.

This week, the site remained stable and experienced no unscheduled downtimes. The average error rate was 0.77% and response time averaged well under 1 second, two of our key metrics in determining site performance.

Read it and weep, Pubs.
Nothing like 'the CMS team' for reliable, impartial info.

You left out the all the rotten stuff about the back-end,' getting info to the insurers.

BTW, I want the exchange websites to work perfectly. Let Ocare fail or succeed on its merits, not fail because the technology doesn't work.
 
Old 12-06-2013, 06:34 PM
 
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I love all the people declaring victory while that RWNJ site, HuffPo, is publishing articles like this:

Nasty Surprise May Await People Who Thought They Enrolled In Obamacare
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