27 times he told us a lie, will you believe what he says now?

[k.smith904]

Originally Posted by tinman01

Why is it a reality? Why is it acceptable for politicians to lie? Is party loyalty so important?

In reality, yes.

[tinman01]

Do you admit that Obama lied? Are you willing to condemn him for his lies?
I think that if more people who support Obama would simply admit that he lied and that even they were misled that would knock a lot of the wind out of some posters sails. Even if it doesn't that makes them smaller.
What annoys me are those who refuse to admit that Obama lied. They won't even admit that Obama misled we the people. This is the problem I have with hardliners from both sides. It's all good as long as it was their side that did it. I on the other hand feel that it is completely reasonable to hold politicians accountable for their misdeeds. The 2 parties should be held accountable for their misdeeds.

[Delahanty]

Originally Posted by Isee-you

Obama will say we can keep our "substandard" plans we can keep them. First lie, insurance plans are already heavily regulated and they are not substandard.

Fred Uptons (republican) bill will be voted on tomorrow, same bill. Obama is trying to get in front of it.

He lied, all right. He knew individual plans would be jettisoned, though, with employer plans to follow (that should be fun).

His agenda was always to get as many on board as possible, and that wouldn't happen as long as people remained on the plans they were happy with. I'm afraid everything's going according to Obama's big plan...

[Isee-you]

Ok obamas lips are moving. Dems are about to get their talking points. Remember ..obamas lips are moving.

The blame game is about to begin.

[tinman01]

Originally Posted by k.smith904

In reality, yes.

It is only a reality because people accept politicians lying to them. Why accept it? If you hire a contractor and he over charges you, violates the contract and lies through his teeth to you would you accept it? I wouldn't.
If you owned a business would you accept your employees lying to you? I wouldn't.
Are you a boss? I am. Would you accept your subordinates lying to you? I wouldn't and don't.
Elected reps are supposed to work for us. How much loyalty do they deserve?
Every time people give them the free pass that enables them. Obama has benefited from a good many free passes and it shows.

[Spaten_Drinker]

Barack and the Democrats have been claiming that Obamanocare is the "law of the land" and cannot be changed. If this is settled law, the GOP should not permit the Democrats from declaring a "mulligan" and making any changes without them being put in bill to be voted on.