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Old 11-15-2013, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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So a bunch of made up things are gonna happen when we let in more brown people?
Illegals are by and large from Central and South America, right?

They have growing in the cultural and politics of those nations what is collectivist, rights? Which are mostly Marxist, or Socialist leaning if not full blown right?

Those hearing during 1986 amnesty would often vote for anyone who often them something (welfare, food stamps, ect] right?

What party has entitlements as a method of luring votes?

and does that party also support the following?
Higher Taxes
Teachers Unions and the Department of Education and oppose School Vouchers and Chatter Schools
Obfuscate regulations
Moronic Gun Laws that do nothing to reduce crime but strip the law abiding of freedom.

Which party do they always vote for in large number? funny how in every area they live in after the 86 scheme elected a influx of Democrats and they passed such laws..
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Not for the better? Would it make America too brown for you?
Maybe it's the idea of rewarding people for criminal behavior that is offensive? Some of us have spouses that followed a legal path. Some of us have loved ones that will wait up to 7 years before they can get that green card. The idea of people who have cheated and violated our laws getting a free pass, a head of line pass as a reward for cheating is offensive to say the least.
But hey it's just another Obama lie right. What did he promise? No head of line pass. Illegals would have to follow the same path as legals. isn't that what he said??? Well legals step 1. Apply for a VISA from their nation of origin.
Step 2 biometrics,a background check and a medical examine.
Step 3 Interview at a US embassy in nation of origin.
The immigration reform bill does nothing to address the actual problems with our immigration system. It is a bill that panders to a very specific group and adds billions in pork spending. It is a very bad bill for America.
By the way my wife is a very brown skinned woman.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Illegals are by and large from Central and South America, right?

They have growing in the cultural and politics of those nations what is collectivist, rights? Which are mostly Marxist, or Socialist leaning if not full blown right?

Those hearing during 1986 amnesty would often vote for anyone who often them something (welfare, food stamps, ect] right?

What party has entitlements as a method of luring votes?

and does that party also support the following?
Higher Taxes
Teachers Unions and the Department of Education and oppose School Vouchers and Chatter Schools
Obfuscate regulations
Moronic Gun Laws that do nothing to reduce crime but strip the law abiding of freedom.

Which party do they always vote for in large number? funny how in every area they live in after the 86 scheme elected a influx of Democrats and they passed such laws..
I am pretty sure they don't vote for the party that treats them like second class citizens even when they are citizens of this country.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Probably the same thing that happened when the Irish feared that the Blacks were gonna take their low paying jobs. Though I am guessing there won't be the rioting and lynchings that the Irish did.
Yeah the Irish came legality, and they learn English and embraced the culture, and freedoms and liberties that built this nation, not trade them via a vote for a handout..
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Maybe it's the idea of rewarding people for criminal behavior that is offensive? Some of us have spouses that followed a legal path. Some of us have loved ones that will wait up to 7 years before they can get that green card. The idea of people who have cheated and violated our laws getting a free pass, a head of line pass as a reward for cheating is offensive to say the least.
But hey it's just another Obama lie right. What did he promise? No head of line pass. Illegals would have to follow the same path as legals. isn't that what he said??? Well legals step 1. Apply for a VISA from their nation of origin.
Step 2 biometrics,a background check and a medical examine.
Step 3 Interview at a US embassy in nation of origin.
The immigration reform bill does nothing to address the actual problems with our immigration system. It is a bill that panders to a very specific group and adds billions in pork spending. It is a very bad bill for America.
By the way my wife is a very brown skinned woman.
Yet these same people don't find it offensive when companies hire illegals to work for them. That is what I find odd. You almost never see a thread on this site about going after business owners who hire illegals, it is always the other way around. It is those illegals taking all the jobs when that is an untrue statement.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I am pretty sure they don't vote for the party that treats them like second class citizens even when they are citizens of this country.
We did not treat them as second class citizens, you have to be a citizens in order to be treated like a second class citizen.

But then again, if anyone does not march in lock step with "the party" they must be a racist, right? the end being to stack the deck with 30,000,000 welfare voters always justifies the means, and too hell with the consequences right?

Any if facts, logic, reason, statistics, or self evident observation comes to light, it must be a "lie from Fox News" or "Evil Right Wing Racist"

In this Rescission is it insanity to think it will do anything but harm the working and middle class.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:04 PM
 
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Illegals are by and large from Central and South America, right?

They have growing in the cultural and politics of those nations what is collectivist, rights? Which are mostly Marxist, or Socialist leaning if not full blown right?

Those hearing during 1986 amnesty would often vote for anyone who often them something (welfare, food stamps, ect] right?

What party has entitlements as a method of luring votes?

and does that party also support the following?
Higher Taxes
Teachers Unions and the Department of Education and oppose School Vouchers and Chatter Schools
Obfuscate regulations
Moronic Gun Laws that do nothing to reduce crime but strip the law abiding of freedom.

Which party do they always vote for in large number? funny how in every area they live in after the 86 scheme elected a influx of Democrats and they passed such laws..
I have to say that immigrants, illegal or not, are one of the hardest working people I have ever met. And I hate to say this but I would hire them any day over americans because some americans are lazy.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yeah the Irish came legality, and they learn English and embraced the culture, and freedoms and liberties that built this nation, not trade them via a vote for a handout..
I don't think you know the Irish history that well, they embraced the Irish culture when they moved here. This country had Irish slums and it was much easier to hop on a boat and sail into NYC or Boston back then when millions were migrating here from other countries.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Yet these same people don't find it offensive when companies hire illegals to work for them. That is what I find odd. You almost never see a thread on this site about going after business owners who hire illegals, it is always the other way around. It is those illegals taking all the jobs when that is an untrue statement.
I find it really offensive, I am in full support for national E verify, funny didn't the Democrats kill that bill?
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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We did not treat them as second class citizens, you have to be a citizens in order to be treated like a second class citizen.

But then again, if anyone does not march in lock step with "the party" they must be a racist, right? the end being to stack the deck with 30,000,000 welfare voters always justifies the means, and too hell with the consequences right?

Any if facts, logic, reason, statistics, or self evident observation comes to light, it must be a "lie from Fox News" or "Evil Right Wing Racist"

In this Rescission is it insanity to think it will do anything but harm the working and middle class.
How do you tell the difference between an illegal and a citizen? Also, if they are already living and working in this country, should they not have representation too? Might as well seeing you allow their employers to get away with hiring illegals.
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