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Old 11-17-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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Am I the only one who finds the conservatism vs. liberalism debate extremely reductive and tiresome?
nope.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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What are you talking about?
The fact that history is swayed by whoever recites it. Look at how liberal professors talk about wars being in warranted and unnecessary vs someone like say my father who brings up the fact that without the use of the A-bomb, millions of US troops would have died invading Japan to draw out a surrender during WW 2. In my tenth grade history class, it was full of people who couldn't realize that stance that my grandfather was one of those troops checked up in the early stages of staffing the invasion of Japan and had he died, I would not be alive and possibly others would be in the same boat.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Liberals are tyrants, for they believe without doubt or reservation in their right to force their judgment of how things should be upon everyone.
Well that is a false, generalized statement.
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:05 PM
 
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Yes, THEY absolutely HATE Ronnie, it is like a sickness for them.

And THEY expect people to have a ton of respect for the Kennedy family and similar such royalty.

Nope, you direct hate at people you disagree with, like Cheney and Bush.....don't expect me to show respect for people like Miss PeeLousy, Martin Luther Plagiarist and The Muslim-in-chief.

Mr. Hussein is NOT my president!
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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That is why Reagan was so great. He wasn't a patsy.
Yup. He never took the fall, even when he was lying or pulling back room deals to arm Central American communists. Only a patsy would have taken that fall.

Definition of the word from the Urban dictionary:
Patsy
The guy that always takes the fall! A loser!! The nice guy that finishes last every time.
Also used when describing a weak minded man who lets his girlfriend/ wife walk all over him.

But since those of us who are old enough to remember the old geezer, we also recall how his wife ran the show. So maybe he qualifies as half-patsy?
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yes, THEY absolutely HATE Ronnie, it is like a sickness for them.

And THEY expect people to have a ton of respect for the Kennedy family and similar such royalty.

Nope, you direct hate at people you disagree with, like Cheney and Bush.....don't expect me to show respect for people like Miss PeeLousy, Martin Luther Plagiarist and The Muslim-in-chief.

Mr. Hussein is NOT my president!
I guess that means you weren't an Iraqi living in Iraq during the Sadam Hussein era.
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Yup. He never took the fall, even when he was lying or pulling back room deals to arm Central American communists. Only a patsy would have taken that fall.

Definition of the word from the Urban dictionary:
Patsy
The guy that always takes the fall! A loser!! The nice guy that finishes last every time.
Also used when describing a weak minded man who lets his girlfriend/ wife walk all over him.

But since those of us who are old enough to remember the old geezer, we also recall how his wife ran the show. So maybe he qualifies as half-patsy?
Well, his son says he was showing signs of his Alzheimer's in his first term. As someone who has gone through this in a family member, the family knows before the physician.
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