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Originally Posted by canceltriplea
Somehow in your quest to STILL defend this idiot...you completely and willfully ignored the most important facts:
He was not in any way, shape or form acting in any official or elected capacity to have approached him.
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He was part of the neighborhood watch. Do you find the fact that neighbors will volunteer to drive around and report suspicious behavior offensive?
This was a neighborhood that was experiencing a crime wave in home break-ins.
I would not want to live in a neighborhood where residents could care less as to what was happening. I like living in such a neighborhood, not one where a woman can be screaming her lungs out while being raped and nobody even calls the police (which has happened).
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Originally Posted by canceltriplea
2.) Zimmerman called the cops and THEY told him NOT to leave his car or approach Martin. Right there he defied standing orders from the police.
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Zimmerman called 911 and spoke to a dispatcher, not the police. The dispatcher asked him several questions.
Let's take a look at the transcript (
Transcript of George Zimmerman's Call to the Police ):
Dispatcher, "Just let me know if he does anything, ok."
Dispatcher, "Just let me know if he does anything else."
Dispatcher, "He's running? Which way is he running?"
How exactly do you answer these questions if you aren't watching him?
You say the police told him not to leave his car? No, that is a lie.
Dispatcher, "Are you following him?"
Zimmerman, "Yeah."
Dispatcher, "Ok, we don't need you to do that."
Wow, how about that, the police never said they wanted Zimmerman to remain in his car. He said he'd follow Martin, and the dispatcher said they didn't NEED him to do that - he was not required for him to follow Martin.
You might actually want to familiarize yourself with what the facts are.
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Originally Posted by canceltriplea
3.) What was so urgent that GZ felt the need to defy the police and take it upon himself to play Rent-a-Cop?
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He NEVER defied the police. Once again, you need to actual familiarize yourself with the facts and not post your opinion as fact when you are completely wrong.
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Originally Posted by canceltriplea
4.) If one of your kids were outside and gotten approached by some strange man who claimed he killed them in self defense after the police told him not to approach how would you feel?
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Hurt broken.
How would you feel if you had a child who had raped a child and was shot by the police while your son was stabbing that child?
It is a FACT that Zimmerman did not walk up and shoot Martin. It is a FACT, based on witness testimony and ballistics, that Zimmerman shot Martin as Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him after already breaking his nose. It is a FACT that the ME report showed no defense wounds on Martin. It is a FACT that Martin had bruised knuckles and Zimmerman did not.
Don't pretend like Zimmerman just walked up and shot Martin, that isn't even close to what the FACTS show.
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Originally Posted by canceltriplea
5.) Would you not fight for your life against someone chasing you trying to take it?
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So, let's say that your plan is to murder the black kid you didn't want in your neighborhood. Would you plan be to call the police and wait long enough for them to possibly arrive before shooting him? Would you plan be to somehow figure out a way for him to first break your nose and then get on top of you beating your head into the pavement before shooting him? If so, wow, what an incredibly stupid plan.
Not a single solitary piece of evidence or testimony contradicts that Martin attacked Zimmerman on the way back to the car. Every piece of evidence fits Zimmerman's story that he called the police when a stranger was walking around in a suspicious manner in a neighborhood with crime problems, he called the police, he kept watching Martin waiting for the police to arrive, he lost track of Martin and exited his vehicle to see where he went, on the way back Martin attacked him by breaking his nose and beating his head into the ground and he fired a SINGLE shot to defend himself. If that is indeed what happened, I feel that Zimmerman did what any reasonable person would do, and not a single solitary piece of evidence contradicts that.
When the FBI did an exhaustive investigation of Zimmerman, they did not find any indications of racism in his past.
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Originally Posted by canceltriplea
6.) If some man tried to forcibly stop you...you're going to do it?
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If a man forcibly stops me by breaking my nose, jumping on top of me and beating my head into the ground, I'm going to do exactly what Zimmerman did and stop the attack by any means necessary.
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So, first, you may actually want to familiarize yourself with what happened (the evidence, testimony and transcript), since you clearly seem ignorant on the situation. After that, you might want to ask yourself what you would do if someone went MMA on you as you tried to make your neighborhood a better place.
IMHO, it certainly appears that Zimmerman is a scumbag. But even a scumbag can do the right thing in a specific instance. In the Martin situation, scumbag Zimmerman did the right thing (as indicated by the evidence, testimony and transcript).
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