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Old 11-21-2013, 04:34 AM
 
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Why don't you discuss the topic and not what other peoples opinions are? You're obviously flaming and trolling, again.
LOL....and you are discussing the topic? What a hypocrite....

I guess when you have been proving wrong (like most lefties) you run and cry somethng....Ohh look you did just that....flaming and trolling....LOL....
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Even shooting at the tires could put the children in danger.

Lock her away AND fire the officer.
Exactly, I would love to see the police procedure that indicates it is a good idea to shoot at a car full of kids driving away. I don't know why the second police cruiser didn't block her van. The mother should get some jail time for putting herself and children at risk, the cop who fired his gun should be fired.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:31 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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LOL....and you are discussing the topic? What a hypocrite....

I guess when you have been proving wrong (like most lefties) you run and cry somethng....Ohh look you did just that....flaming and trolling....LOL....
You said I was coddling, I don't believe you know the true meaning of the word "coddle".

Go and hug a rogue cop's leg, and see how far you get with that. Since you love cops so much.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:33 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Exactly, I would love to see the police procedure that indicates it is a good idea to shoot at a car full of kids driving away. I don't know why the second police cruiser didn't block her van. The mother should get some jail time for putting herself and children at risk, the cop who fired his gun should be fired.
Hey, life is cheap, the driver owed what? $171.00 ??!! that's enough to kill for.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:06 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Exactly, I would love to see the police procedure that indicates it is a good idea to shoot at a car full of kids driving away. I don't know why the second police cruiser didn't block her van. The mother should get some jail time for putting herself and children at risk, the cop who fired his gun should be fired.
Yep. I fail to see how anyone could think otherwise. Yes, the woman chose a course of action that certainly showed no intelligence. Just as the cop with the stick and the one who fired his weapon did. From what I saw cop the cops actions, I'm glad I'm not depending on these clowns to have my back in a hot situation.

The scuffle with the kid surely exacerbated things, particularly since the kid got the best of the cop. Seems to me, a "highly trained" officer of the law, should have been quite capable of taking down a 14 year old boy. They DO train for such things...yes? When I worked juvenile probation, we sure did. Brains over brawn was highly stressed.

This is what I saw a lack of here. Rational thinking, which a cop should be consumate at doing. Trying to break the window with the stick was just...silly. Most cops have a multi tool or folding knife on them that has a window breaker on the butt end. The work knife I carry, daily has one. One firm, sharp backhand rap shatters auto glass like an egg. Instead, he flailed away with a nightstick like something out of Braveheart.

At that point, sheesh, I almost don't blame the woman for driving away again. Then, being shot at would have cemented my foot to the floor.

Yes, she started the whole mess, and needs to answer for her acgions, no doubt. However, the cops need to pony up for how they let this get away from them so bad as well.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:14 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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The son is why this gravitated as much as it did. Not surprised the cops used the amount of force they did. They should have beat the living **** out of that kid.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:22 AM
 
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You said I was coddling, I don't believe you know the true meaning of the word "coddle".

Go and hug a rogue cop's leg, and see how far you get with that. Since you love cops so much.
I know what coddling means, just look at your postings and you will find the definiation of coddling.

Well, it appears that you have lumped all cops as rogue, so I guess that means you are right and all cops are like that cop who shot....I mean, it has to be the cops, right, the mother DID NOT drive off TWICE...and the cop WAS NOT attacked by the kid....

So, you are right, they are rogue...because of that...
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:39 AM
 
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I know what coddling means, just look at your postings and you will find the definiation of coddling.

Well, it appears that you have lumped all cops as rogue, so I guess that means you are right and all cops are like that cop who shot....I mean, it has to be the cops, right, the mother DID NOT drive off TWICE...and the cop WAS NOT attacked by the kid....

So, you are right, they are rogue...because of that...
Yes, the mother drove off twice and she deserves to be locked away for it. But the officer still fired a weapon at a vehicle filled with kids, one of them as young as 6.

They were both wrong and both put young and innocent children at risk.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:44 AM
 
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Yes, the mother drove off twice and she deserves to be locked away for it. But the officer still fired a weapon at a vehicle filled with kids, one of them as young as 6.

They were both wrong and both put young and innocent children at risk.
I have said that many many times in this thread, I agree with you.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:44 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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The son is why this gravitated as much as it did. Not surprised the cops used the amount of force they did. They should have beat the living **** out of that kid.
The kid did escalate things, yes. However, at 14, if you saw someone, anyone, getting physical with your Mom, how do you think your adolescent brain would work? The kid should ha e been, quickly, taken down and restrained. Tbis would have stopped all this nonsense before it went nuclear. Beating tbe tar out of a 14 year old? No, not recommended. Not in this situation. Spray would have been my first choice. OC generally gains cooperation of rank people, fairly effectively. A tasing? Yea, I coulda bought off on that here to.

But, from what I see here, the cop wasn't THINKING. They, consequently, lost control of the situation.
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