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Old 11-19-2013, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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From the article: "Nordic Counties, The Netherlands Have Lowest Rates"

You think there are more fathers remaining with kids in Nordic countries, where very few even get married?
Actually, I once read that a child is more likely to live with both parents in Sweden than in the US, even if the Swedish parents are not married.

http://super-economy.blogspot.com/20...ds-sweden.html
http://sweden.se/society/children-an...ple-in-sweden/
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Old 11-19-2013, 04:02 PM
 
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Actually, I once read that a child is more likely to live with both parents in Sweden than in the US, even if the Swedish parents are not married.
That is true. I know of a couple that didn't believe in "marriage," but they were every bit as a couple as a married couple. They had 3 kids, lived under the same roof, have highly intelligent and well-behaved children -- they are great parents, period.

They did eventually marry when their oldest was a senior in high school.

"Marriage" doesn't matter - if there are 2 adults there being responsible parents.
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Old 11-19-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Define "poverty"...
When I was 8 t0 9 years old, we lived on my step-grandparents old homestead, in a log cabin and a bunkhouse.
No electricity, no running water, the toilet was a little brown shack out back, and we bathed in a washtub.
We had very little money. But, we never went hungry. We had about a half acre garden, raised pigs and chickens, harvested deer and antelope whenever we needed meat, and lived quite well.
Were we "living in poverty"? I suppose so, but we felt rich.
Compared to many children across the world, the poorest kids in the U.S. are quite wealthy!
How about a REAL comparison?
How many children in the U.S. are one day away from starving to death?
How many children in Africa are one day away from starving to death?
How about the other "poorest of the poor" countries around the world?
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Old 11-19-2013, 07:43 PM
 
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WOW. That post is right out of Archie Bunker's book.
Oh really? Only Archie Bunkers would be responsible enough to have life insurance? And millions of women today work and provide the financial support of their children. Divorce does not mean the mother has to never work. Many divorced women do work.
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Old 11-19-2013, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Define "poverty"...
When I was 8 t0 9 years old, we lived on my step-grandparents old homestead, in a log cabin and a bunkhouse.
No electricity, no running water, the toilet was a little brown shack out back, and we bathed in a washtub.
We had very little money. But, we never went hungry. We had about a half acre garden, raised pigs and chickens, harvested deer and antelope whenever we needed meat, and lived quite well.
Were we "living in poverty"? I suppose so, but we felt rich.
Compared to many children across the world, the poorest kids in the U.S. are quite wealthy!
How about a REAL comparison?
How many children in the U.S. are one day away from starving to death?
How many children in Africa are one day away from starving to death?
How about the other "poorest of the poor" countries around the world?
I'm sure that makes this kid much less hungry:



... and it gives this one a plucky, can-do! attitude with which it will go out and get a job at a factory once it's old enough to legally do so:



... and this one will be less cold this winter because it knows that other kids way off in the great yonder have it worse:



Get real.
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Old 11-19-2013, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Stop offering tax breeding incentives to people who can't afford children.
Oh yea, that will help the poverty of children.
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:03 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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...Only Romania Is Worse




Which policies are being utilized to address this?

Cutting Head Start?
Cutting Food Stamp benefits?
Cutting education and keeping college costs high?
Not raising the minimum wage?
Refusing to raise taxes on the wealthy?
Making abortion/birth control less accessible?
Continuing corporate welfare including the military industrial complex?
Not passing a Jobs Bill?

Really, which policies are focused on remedying this embarrassing and shameful statistic?


Wait wait wait.

After all the cash the government has poured into it and what FDR's New Deal and Johnsons Great Society was suppose to accomplish, hasn't hit its mark?

Is this like the war on drugs?

You do realize, it is the government that creates poverty.
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Oh yea, that will help the poverty of children.
Yup... because we all know that if you drive through a trailer park or the PJ's, you see a bunch of well-fed kids in the latest fashions, tapping away on an iPhone, PSP, and DS simultaneously while their moms praise Obama in their Tiffany bracelets and Coach handbags

If any of these yuks had ever set foot in a poor area, let alone lived in one and gotten to know the people who live in them, then maybe they'd have a modicum of compassion for them. But no, they fear and hate these people, and are proud to steadfastly believe in caricatures and stereotypes of people in poverty; they aren't real humans to them, and that's why they don't feel any compassion towards them and feel they should have no rights.
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:08 PM
 
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Yup... because we all know that if you drive through a trailer park or the PJ's, you see a bunch of well-fed kids in the latest fashions, tapping away on an iPhone, PSP, and DS simultaneously while their moms praise Obama in their Tiffany bracelets and Coach handbags

If any of these yuks had ever set foot in a poor area, let alone lived in one and gotten to know the people who live in them, then maybe they'd have a modicum of compassion for them. But no, they fear and hate these people, and are proud to steadfastly believe in caricatures and stereotypes of people in poverty; they aren't real humans to them, and that's why they don't feel any compassion towards them and feel they should have no rights.
Honestly - how many trailer parks do you drive through?

Swear on my grand mother's grave the one I drive through --

multiple Obama signs, ZERO Romney signs.

large obesity rates among the kids that walk around with Mountain Dew bottles and Monster Cans - so define "well fed" -- they are getting enough to eat with free or reduced school breakfast and lunch, WIC, food stamps, and etc...but not the healthiest foods.


You might have stereotypes too.
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Wait wait wait.

After all the cash the government has poured into it and what Johnsons Great Society was suppose to accomplish, hasn't hit its mark?

Is this like the war on drugs?

You do realize, it is the government that creates poverty.
The war on drugs was indeed a horrible thing that never should have happened.

But, despite the fact that the tide of public opinion in nearly all quarters has turned against it, thanks to the free market, there are for-profit prisons who take your and my tax dollars to incarcerate people who weren't harming anyone other than themselves by having a couple joints on them... the companies and shareholders who have a stake in this multibillion dollar enterprise have a great personal incentive to keep lobbing money into lobbyists who make sure that their interests supersede those of society.

The "free market" also willingly ships jobs overseas, and in the past, fought against safety regulations, reasonable work hours, pay that was even remotely sensible, and for their right to employ children to operate heavy machinery.

Yes... all the gummint's fault, 100%.
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