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Old 11-19-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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Uh; what about the Fighting Irish? That's def a stereotype of "Irish" people and not always good. Mn Vikings or even the Boston Celtics? Oh; that's right: they're usually "white" groups so it's Ok for a dark skin dude to be associated with with them but NOT the other way.
"Fighting Irish" is a play on an Irish stereotype, so I can see why people may find that off-putting, but it's far from a racial slur. The two aren't equitably offensive though.

I'm going to have to disagree on the Viking/Celtic analogy. Those two names are celebratory; we don't celebrate racial slurs. We never have, and George Marshall (the well-known racist and founder of the Washington Redskins) certainly didn't... he used them like most racists do.
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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Grow a thicker skin, quit whining, and get a life.
No. The name shouldn't have ever been accepted in the first place, so I'm hopeful that it'll be changed.
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:39 PM
 
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No. The name shouldn't have ever been accepted in the first place, so I'm hopeful that it'll be changed.
Here's some perspective on what's truly offensive-

Palestinians name soccer teams for suicide bombers

But that's what's always missing from the Leftist agenda: perspective and context.
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:42 PM
 
Location: California
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No. The name shouldn't have ever been accepted in the first place, so I'm hopeful that it'll be changed.
They wanted to sound fierce, not insulting. Would you name you team something that would be considered a "joke"?

Besides, I really don't care.
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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OK, I'm not saying where I stand on this issue, but. . .

We were watching the Broncos/Chiefs game Sunday, and DH asked why there isn't a big thing going on about the name "Chiefs"?
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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Uh; what about the Fighting Irish? That's def a stereotype of "Irish" people and not always good. Mn Vikings or even the Boston Celtics? Oh; that's right: they're usually "white" groups so it's Ok for a dark skin dude to be associated with with them but NOT the other way.
OK, you have a point with the "Irish" connection. But not with anything else because white groups are different because History is only one story. There aren't two separate parallel histories in which each race has been oppressed to the same degree. It's not parallel. IN fact, oppression has been very one-sided since the Enlightenment. So that's why it's different.
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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Here's some perspective on what's truly offensive-

Palestinians name soccer teams for suicide bombers

But that's what's always missing from the Leftist agenda: perspective and context.
So your justification for an NFL team plastering a racial slur on millions of television screens every Sunday afternoon during the football season is that someone else did it, too? So now it's acceptable?

I'm not buying that anymore than I'm buying that a person has to identify as democrat to be offended by racial slurs.
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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"Fighting Irish" is a play on an Irish stereotype, so I can see why people may find that off-putting, but it's far from a racial slur. The two aren't equitably offensive though.

I'm going to have to disagree on the Viking/Celtic analogy. Those two names are celebratory; we don't celebrate racial slurs. We never have, and George Marshall (the well-known racist and founder of the Washington Redskins) certainly didn't... he used them like most racists do.
Baloney! I can't speak to the Celts name, but Vikings are known for raping and pillaging. (DH said he's always wanted to pillage!) And have you never heard the term "dumb Swede"?
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:50 PM
 
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Baloney! I can't speak to the Celts name, but Vikings are known for raping and pillaging. (DH said he's always wanted to pillage!) And have you never heard the term "dumb Swede"?
Alright, fine. But, "redskin" is still as racial slur.
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Since we're talking about a DC team...how about they choose the name "useless twatwaffles"?

I'm OK with a name change; there is no reason to keep gloryfing American indians.
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