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Old 11-20-2013, 08:58 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Silly common sense like understanding the president sets the tone
The president is not responsible for the thoughts and actions of every single person in government.

Just like the CEO of a company is not responsible when some disgruntled employee does things that are in violation of the company policy.

Employees sometimes make decisions themselves, and when they break rules, they should be punished and/or fired.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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The president is not responsible for the thoughts and actions of every single person in government.

Just like the CEO of a company is not responsible when some disgruntled employee does things that are in violation of the company policy.

Employees sometimes make decisions themselves, and when they break rules, they should be punished and/or fired.
The president sets the tone for the government. Who was fired?
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:29 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Have they been disciplined ?
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The president sets the tone for the government. Who was fired?
Five questions about the New York Post’s unemployment story

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The Census Bureau has issued this statement on the New York Post story:
The Census Bureau takes allegations of fraud by its employees very seriously. Fabrication of data by an employee is grounds for disciplinary action, including dismissal and possible criminal action.
We have no reason to believe that there was a systematic manipulation of the data described in media reports. As a statistical agency, the Census Bureau is very conscientious about our responsibility to produce accurate Current Population Survey data for the Bureau of Labor Statistics and all other surveys we conduct. We carefully cross check and verify the work of our staff to ensure the data’s validity, including random quality control monitoring. That monitoring process includes reinterviewing respondents, and rechecking the data an employee has submitted, looking for red flags that indicate possible fabrication, such as abnormally short lengths of interviews or higher survey completion rates that are out of sync with normal survey collection productivity levels.
That is why when we learned of the allegations of fabricated Current Population survey results, we immediately reported them to the Office of the Inspector General.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:44 AM
 
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The president is not responsible for the thoughts and actions of every single person in government.

Just like the CEO of a company is not responsible when some disgruntled employee does things that are in violation of the company policy.

Employees sometimes make decisions themselves, and when they break rules, they should be punished and/or fired.
Liberals certainly had no problem holding Bush completely responsible for Katrina when it was really the fault of many people like FEMA and the governor of New Orleans.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:45 AM
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Default Were Crucial Job Numbers Manipulated?

Was Jack Welch right? Jobs numbers under fire - Yahoo Finance

Our government's credibility is plummeting
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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"The employee who was caught two years ago, one Julius Buckmon, told the Post in an interview that he “faked” the numbers at the direction of his supervisors."

You can read the whole story at the NY Post.

Here we go again! Another GOP hearing and waste of time and taxpayer money to find nothing!
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The topic of the thread is the alleged manipulation of the numbers by two employees. One has agreed to testify before congress on how the numbers before the election were manipulated. Does that concern you?
Does that mean that for example: "Scott Walker says success in office reflected in 2-point drop in unemployment rate from time he decided to run for governor." is not true either?

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...ected-2-point/
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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An average of 350,000 first time filers for unemployment weekly.
4 weeks adds up

Then they come out with creating 119,000 jobs a month.
That does not add up to be lower unemployment numbers.

You know full well if the government had created 1½ million jobs per month,(the 1.4 million lost and the 119,000 people are saying they added on top of the to be a plus) They would be boasting of 1.5 million jobs crated each month, not the 119,000.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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They are just now discovering quality and control issues from 2012 , who has been fired
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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This thread is about a specific story concerning Census employee(s) fabricating data for Sept 2012.

Not all of the above stuff you posted!

You seem to want to re-post the above data every time the word "unemployment" is mentioned in a thread, and all you manage to do is take the thread off topic!
again you fail to see the forest through the trees

UE RATE jan 2009....7.8 (the lowest month that ENTIRE YEAR

Americans Employed, January 2009:.................. 142,187,000
USA POPULATION january 2009......305,529,237

UE RATE OCT 2013....7.3
Americans Employed, today:............................. 142,101,000
usa population TODAY.................316,668,567

the population has grown over 11 million, and not one job added in 5 years

the population has expanded by 11 million, and less people are working, yet you have a lower RATE???


if you cant see the problem, then you are truely wearing partisan blinders
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