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Old 11-21-2013, 07:29 AM
 
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Warren's policies are exactly what the shrinking middle class needs right now...as opposed to the Ayn Rand philosophies that the GOP/Teapublicans are pushing.
"suggests the push to expand Social Security..." I seriously doubt it.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Look, Einstein, right now half of this country isn't even working, so there are millions of people not paying into SS. Not a great time to be advocating for an expansion of it.

Obamacare is bankrupting us, and estimated to cost $2.6 trillion the first ten years. We have spent $4.3 Billion (so far) on a Web site that does not work, and are told that 60% - 70% of the back end (the payment processing system, etc.) is not completed yet!

Do ya think we have a few problems? How can we be talking about expanding SS?

The Democrat Party, and Barack Obama have done this to us, with no help at all from Republicans. The Democrats own this mess entirely. They created it. It's theirs. And Warren (Occupier-in-Chief) is one of them.
So what you are saying is you have no idea where you got the number it takes 7 people to pay for every 1 person on social security. Figures.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:34 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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From the article "IF".
Yes, IF the man lives to 82 and the woman lives to 85, which is LONGER than the average life expectancy. If they don't live that long, they LOSE even more on SS.

Average U.S. life expectancy:

Male: 76
Female: 81

The math really isn't that hard. Why do you NOT get it? SS is a federal government wealth grab from working U.S. citizens. For most, it leaves them with LESS money than they had to begin with.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:35 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The country being a Democratic Republic doesn't mean it is a Repiblican form of government. And you are making a false claim in saying I am against capitalism. I am sure you would love to live in Ayn Rand's fantasy of an oppressive world where the only ones who have real freedom are those with the wealth while those without wealth are left behind to suffer.
"Republican form of governmet" is another way of saying we are a Republic. Ever study civics, or American history?

What is Ayn Rands "fantasy world"? Have you ever read any of her books? I have.

You have a misguided understanding of wealth. Wealth is created by individuals who engage in activities that are productive. When we produce nothing, we do not create wealth. Productive people who work and produce do not "leave others behind to suffer." People are in control of their own lives.

Where do you learn these mixed up, screwy ideas? Your head is really messed up.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So Warren is going to bring back company pensions ?
ROFL. Those will never come back.

And if they really wanted people to save for their own retirements they would not have put an annual cap on it or at least a much higher cap than what they have there now.

Corporate and government worked together to create that baby which relieved corporates from having any financial obligations to the worker after the worker retires.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes, IF the man lives to 82 and the woman lives to 85, which is LONGER than the average life expectancy. If they don't live that long, they LOSE even more on SS.

Average U.S. life expectancy:

Male: 76
Female: 81

The math really isn't that hard. Why do you NOT get it? SS is a federal government wealth grab from working U.S. citizens. For most, it leaves them with LESS money than they had to begin with.
And the big media push now is telling people to wait until 70 to start SS because you'll get that much more money each month.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Warren is to the Democratic Party what the Tea Party is the Republican Party. She is a far-left wing nutjob who is on the fringe of sanity. The only difference between her and the Tea Party is that the media loves what she says and paints her asa voice of reason, when she should be written off as a fringe candidate.

I'd love for her to run for President. She'd make such an easy target and opponent for any Republican candidate.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:40 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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So what you are saying is you have no idea where you got the number it takes 7 people to pay for every 1 person on social security. Figures.
That isn't my number. Wrong poster. But it may well be true. I haven't seen that.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Warren is really a drug dealer. She wants to inject government heroin (via social programs) into the veins of everyone. They will be addicted to the government. They'll think their livelihood depends on the actions of politicians instead of themselves.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Warren is to the Democratic Party what the Tea Party is the Republican Party. She is a far-left wing nutjob who is on the fringe of sanity. The only difference between her and the Tea Party is that the media loves what she says and paints her asa voice of reason, when she should be written off as a fringe candidate.

I'd love for her to run for President. She'd make such an easy target and opponent for any Republican candidate.
In Congress she's just an empty voice. She'll never get support. She's just another "Ron Paul" type of politician now.
And she didn't get appointed to head that Consumer Agency for a reason.
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