According to A CBS Poll 93% Of The American People Want Obamcare Changed Or Repealed--Obama Overplayed His Hand! (Congress, Pelosi)

[gretsky99]

Obamacare will be the Democrat's waterloo!


CBS Poll: 84% of Democrats Want ObamaCare Changed or Repealed


A new and independent analysis of ObamaCare warns of a ticking time bomb, predicting a second wave of 50 million to 100 million insurance policy cancellations next fall -- right before the mid-term elections.

Second wave of health plan cancellations looms | Fox News

[HappyTexan]

They all wanted this 4 years ago.
They all wanted this until they saw the numbers.

Too little too late to really do anything about it.
The health insurance industry was totally "reformed" and it took them years since 2009 to adhere to the mandates of Obamacare. That cannot be changed or undone now.

Next time don't believe everything you're told in the press.

[AeroGuyDC]

The Diseased Minds™ don't know what hit them! LOL

[Sonnenwende]

So what's the alternative? Going back to having no access to coverage because you had the audacity to have a pre-existing condition? Premiums were going up every year long before Obamacare. Employers dropping plans for inability to pay is nothing new.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Sonnenwende

So what's the alternative? Going back to having no access to coverage because you had the audacity to have a pre-existing condition? Premiums were going up every year long before Obamacare. Employers dropping plans for inability to pay is nothing new.

If we did go back less people would be uninsured than there are today.
This entire reform is based on lots more than that "minority of uninsured" signing up and paying higher premiums. That came out in 2012.

The USG needs those higher premiums to fund the subsidies.

Americans should have demanded answers from their elected politicians when all those healthcare town halls were happening.
The people were told a vision of Utopia that turned out to be false.
"Self funding" through taxes and penalties is what we were told.

Dealing with numbers has never been accurate or even close when coming from Congress or the CBO.
History attests to that. And that Congress had to keep sending different figures to the CBO until the CBO finally said "OK" should have reinforced that pretense.

Obama is on the hot seat now.
Pelosi and Reid don't seem to be held accountable.
Pelosi is still quoting CBO estimates as facts (500,000 signed up in the first month).
Reid is not talking until he meets with Obama.
Baucus already backed off and said this is not what he envisioned and he's retiring.

The top people involved are no longer involved by their choosing.

It is a mess. It needs to be fixed. And the Dems need to deal with it rather than spend their time looking for someone else to blame.

[Old Gringo]

It should be replaced by single player.

ASAP

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Sonnenwende

So what's the alternative? Going back to having no access to coverage because you had the audacity to have a pre-existing condition?

That actually rarely happened. States had high-risk pools:
States That Have Risk Pools

The problem is that too many of you fell for yet another liberal LIE: those with pre-existing conditions can't get insurance.

That was false.

Now many of you are getting burned because you failed to discover that was a liberal LIE and fell for the manipulative propaganda. Sucks to be you. Unfortunately, you're dragging many of us who knew better down with you.

[e30is]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

If we did go back less people would be uninsured than there are today.
This entire reform is based on lots more than that "minority of uninsured" signing up and paying higher premiums. That came out in 2012.

The USG needs those higher premiums to fund the subsidies.

Americans should have demanded answers from their elected politicians when all those healthcare town halls were happening.
The people were told a vision of Utopia that turned out to be false.
"Self funding" through taxes and penalties is what we were told.

Dealing with numbers has never been accurate or even close when coming from Congress or the CBO.
History attests to that. And that Congress had to keep sending different figures to the CBO until the CBO finally said "OK" should have reinforced that pretense.

Obama is on the hot seat now.
Pelosi and Reid don't seem to be held accountable.
Pelosi is still quoting CBO estimates as facts (500,000 signed up in the first month).
Reid is not talking until he meets with Obama.
Baucus already backed off and said this is not what he envisioned and he's retiring.

The top people involved are no longer involved by their choosing.

It is a mess. It needs to be fixed. And the Dems need to deal with it rather than spend their time looking for someone else to blame.

Not to mention that the GOP tried to stop it forty-something times because of its current implications. The Dems shrugged it off and insisted that you could keep your plan if you liked it despite knowing that they were flat out lying.

But instead lets blame the GOP and Bush to solve all of our problems.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Old Gringo

It should be replaced by single player.

ASAP

You realize the people need to commit now in order to have insurance by 1/1 ?
I got my info for next year an have to commit by next week.

As you can see from Obamacare it takes YEARS to reform an industry.
Vermont is in the process of implementing single payer/universal insurance.
It's been a year or two in the planning and will be a few more years until it's fully implemented.

[chucksnee]

Who said, "The Chickens are coming home to roost"?

I beleive that would be happening....