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Old 11-23-2013, 05:22 PM
 
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Then there really isn't any point to a discussion, is there?
I suppose not. You're mind-locked to follow what you're told to think and I'm not.
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:30 PM
 
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Sad and sick, but true. And not something that I agree with.
But you have to agree with it.

Either you hold SCOTUS as the sole authority to tell you what the Constitution means... Or you don't. If you don't, you have to construct your own understanding via READING IT, and oddly enough, it's greatly at odds with the plain language.
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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But you have to agree with it.

Either you hold SCOTUS as the sole authority to tell you what the Constitution means... Or you don't. If you don't, you have to construct your own understanding via READING IT, and oddly enough, it's greatly at odds with the plain language.
They have to do massive mental gymnastics in order to believe the wrapped things leftist believe.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Why was the 2nd is written without qualifications?
Historical accident.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:24 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It takes an amendment, not statutory law legislated in DC or in any state, to change the intent of the god given right, We the People declared.
The fundamental Amendment that protects all the others.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:27 AM
 
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There are no God-given rights.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It takes an amendment, not statutory law legislated in DC or in any state, to change the intent of the god given right, We the People declared.
The fundamental Amendment that protects all the others.
So... which is it? Is a "god given right?" Or was it declared by "We the People?"

It can't actually be both.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So... which is it? Is a "god given right?" Or was it declared by "We the People?"

It can't actually be both.

We The People, declared the rights given to us all, by our creator. Specifically, the right to protect ourselves as individuals, against all forms of oppression.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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Your right of self-protection is provided only as allowed by law - not God.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:44 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Your right of self-protection is provided only as allowed by law - not God.


Yes, from a noninterventionist point of view.
Statutory law takes over once the trigger is pulled.
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