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Old 11-22-2013, 09:13 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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This pretty sums up what us pragmatic and moderate folks are wondering.....

Bobby Jindal is right: Republicans aren’t ready to win back the White House.
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The fact of the matter is that we in the Republican Party are not yet prepared to take on the task of winning back the White House. And our lack of preparation has nothing to do with candidates—it has to do with our agenda. The voters know that we oppose Obama. What they don’t really know is what we would do if they gave us the car keys. How would we reform and improve education? What is our plan for health care, once we repeal Obamacare? How will we make America energy independent? What exactly will we do to stop our entitlement programs from going bankrupt? And how will we get America’s economy growing again? The voters demand answers to these questions. And they deserve them.
They have spent so much time opposing Obama at every step and have lost focus on real agenda and real policy....It begs the question what will happen if you do get your way?
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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same **** different party
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:20 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Like things could be any worse than they are now.
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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I never really thought Obamacare would last long anyway....I'm assuming we'll get a Republican president next term cycle.
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:22 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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I never really thought Obamacare would last long anyway....I'm assuming we'll get a Republican president next term cycle.
Okay, then what are they are proposing in it's place or are they happy with pre-ACA?
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:24 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Like things could be any worse than they are now.
They were definitely worse in 2007 when trillions of dollars of PRIVATE assets were lost.
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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This pretty sums up what us pragmatic and moderate folks are wondering.....

Bobby Jindal is right: Republicans aren’t ready to win back the White House.


They have spent so much time opposing Obama at every step and have lost focus on real agenda and real policy....It begs the question what will happen if you do get your way?
Pragmatic and moderate folks don't support Obama.

Loaning hundreds of millions to Solyndra, saying the Republicans' "holy grail" is denying healthcare to people, putting a moratorium on drilling and cancelling the keystone pipeline, saying you'll raise capital gains taxes even if it results in lower revenue, asking for hundreds of billions for a "jobs bill" right after your trillion dollar stimulus failed to produce any shovel ready jobs, etc - none of that is pragmatic or moderate.
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:44 PM
 
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People on the left need to go read up on The history of the Soviet Union.
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Old 11-22-2013, 10:16 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Pragmatic and moderate folks don't support Obama.
Based off of what?

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Loaning hundreds of millions to Solyndra,
Ok.... The US a long history of loaning and giving money to private companies, it wasn't unprecedented. It failed, absolutely, but that's truly nothing compared to what occurs in defense. It's funny you use this as an example as China is outcompeting the US by similarly investing and even propping up its solar industry on a grander scale.

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saying the Republicans' "holy grail" is denying healthcare to people,
Whatever. These type of sound bites are only that, sound bites. Both sides are guilty of slinging mud.

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putting a moratorium on drilling and cancelling the keystone pipeline,
You realize the O&G industry is undergoing a renaissance and production will result in being a net exporter. It was certainly a setback, but this was an unprecedented event.

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saying you'll raise capital gains taxes even if it results in lower revenue,
K? Is this just talk or has this happened? We dealing in what ifs here?

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asking for hundreds of billions for a "jobs bill" right after your trillion dollar stimulus failed to produce any shovel ready jobs, etc -
Of course it produced some shovel-ready jobs, although far less than ideal. However, the stimulus went to more than just shovel ready jobs, it helped plug tens of billions of dollars of state budgets.

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none of that is pragmatic or moderate.
That's the problem, you can't actually sit here and list the pros and cons of these actual actions and the hypotheticals. The world has many angles to observe and look at.
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