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Yes, I found the title interesting enough to click on it and comment on it after reading it, in that sense you are correct. But like that issue, this one also is a non-issue.
Must be an issue if you keep coming back here to convince us it's a non-issue done by some random person
Isn't this the direction you want this country to go in ?
By the workers, for the workers and get those CEO's out of the picture ?
The encouragement is now coming from local government no less.
Not some individual activists.
This was part of her campaigning points.
Do you know that is why people voted for this person?
So it's now interesting enough to discuss?
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And what did they think one socialist member of a city council might accomplish other than opening up a diologue outside of the typical two party system? I have always said if a third party wants to become relevant in national politics, they need to start at city and state levels. This rule goes for all parties that wish to be the third party. Though I still don't think this one socialist city council member is going to have any real effect in Seattle or Washington without working with other Democrats.
She is speaking about nationalizing some factories, she does not have the authority to order workers to 'take them over'. She is concerned for the welfare of our workforce, a concept alien to the right.
She didn't ask the council to buy them out.
She never once mentioned "nationalizing".
She told those workers to "take it over".
She was talking to the workers there at that meeting my friend.
Must be an issue if you keep coming back here to convince us it's a non-issue done by some random person
Isn't this the direction you want this country to go in ?
By the workers, for the workers and get those CEO's out of the picture ?
The encouragement is now coming from local government no less.
Not some individual activists.
This was part of her campaigning points.
Actually I keep coming back because this is a topic about the northwest and I miss the northwest. Though there is some truth in the rest of your statement, I think it is important to focus on having a very strong middle class for this country rather than a handful of rich CEOs while it gets harder and harder for everyone else to be a part of the middle class.
She didn't ask the council to buy them out.
She never once mentioned "nationalizing".
She told those workers to "take it over".
She was talking to the workers there at that meeting my friend.
'Take the machines and the factories into democratic ownership', to me, means nationalization.
She's talking about corporate greed and union-busting. The mantra of the 'Reagan Revolution'.
If you think we will stop fighting you as you drag our country down to Third World status, you are sadly mistaken.
From your own article..ownership by workers is not nationalization is it ?
"We don't need the executives!" cried Seattle's first elected Socialist in living memory, as the damp crowd cheered and rush-hour traffic hummed slowly by. "We need Boeing to be under democratic public ownership by workers — by the community!"
Yeah, it's good when people are put out of work, especially if you can punish them for standing up for themselves. Cut their pay and send the jobs to the American South, or Japan. Threaten them, punish them, divide and conquer, that's the Republican way.
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Originally Posted by urbanlife78
I seriously doubt anyone at this plant will take it over and start producing bases just because some random city council member told them to do that.
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Originally Posted by artisan4
She is speaking about nationalizing some factories, she does not have the authority to order workers to 'take them over'. She is concerned for the welfare of our workforce, a concept alien to the right.
while i agree with urbanlife that the chances of the workers taking over the plants and doing what they want, the problem is that in a time when union power needs to be reigned in, we have an avowed socialist suggesting that the workers take over the plant and do what she wants them to do rather than what boeing wants them to do. i doubt boeing will move the entire plant and shut down operations in washington state, but they are looking for other areas to move production facilities to, perhaps they see what is going on? i dont want to see people put out of work, but if they start getting militant and wanting to take over without doing things through the proper channels, then boeing needs to counter them with either the threat to move, or with an actual move.
But she's telling them to take over this plant and produce busses for the community.
Now will they do it is the $64K question.
She is the elected voice of the local government there telling these workers to just take the plant from Boeing.
Even I have to admit this is newsworthy and radical.
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
She didn't ask the council to buy them out.
She never once mentioned "nationalizing".
She told those workers to "take it over".
She was talking to the workers there at that meeting my friend.
I wonder exactly how she proposes that the workers 'take it over'.
I wonder exactly how she proposes that the workers 'take it over'.
she doesnt, because she has no plan. all she will do is try to incite the workers, and then when they actually do try to take the plants over, and boeing counters with a move to states with better working conditions, she will then lay the blame on the management of boeing to try and increase her power base, even though her words would have caused the very issue she would then be railing against, and that is the busting of the unions at boeing.
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