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The fact that Wal-Mart needs to hold a food drive for their poor and underpaid employees speaks volumes.
However, sociopath right wingers still don't see a problem with this picture.
A Wal-Mart store allowed some employees to put up signs in employee areas asking other employees to donate food and holiday supplies for the less fortunate employees.
Wal-Mart didn't sponsor a "food drive" at all. Employees wanted to share with other employees.
The fact that some people felt entitled to mischaracterize the entire thing speaks volumes.
Wal-Mart is the biggest employer in the US and their workers do not have basic rights in order to strike.
Back when we had a strong middle class, GM workers had the right to right.
Cons, hate the fact that Americans should earn a living wage. Instead, they think that their employees should live off the state.
You people are sick.
Yep, GM had the right to strike back in the day, and what happened to that bloated union run shop? Into the toilet it went along with BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars and now that it's owned by the union and ???? not much better.
How funny, just watched Walmart's latest commercial showing all happy,happy,happy employees that were bragging about how much Walmart has given them, from scholarships to free healthcare. Smiles all around life is good at Wally World (according to the commercial).
How funny, just watched Walmart's latest commercial showing all happy,happy,happy employees that were bragging about how much Walmart has given them, from scholarships to free healthcare. Smiles all around life is good at Wally World (according to the commercial).
Actually, Walmart has done that for many employees. Why is that so hard to believe? Even McDonald's has a scholarship program for it's employees. And both companies hire people who probably would have a hard time getting a job in a union shop.
Here in liberal latte-land of Seattle, Amazon is credited with a massive hiring boom and a good economy in spite of having an actual Marxist on the city council. WalMart, of course is the great Satan. I asked a Teamsters' union official I know about Amazon after listening to him go on a rant about WalMart. Amazon is considered a good employer, he told me. Is it because Jeff Bezos donates to democrats like Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell?
Walmart hires the people that no one else will, and pays them accordingly. Amazon hires the people who are desperate and works them to desperation. Walmart is a kinder, gentler Amazon. Why does the left demonize Walmart, and lionize Amazon?
Amazon is new.
You also don't go into Amazon "stores" as it's all through the web.
Amazon apparently pays more. The average wage at walmart for an associate is something like $8.81. Amazon also has a 1% margin, versus Walmarts 6%. Basically, Amazon skirts the line, and so realistically should have an even lower average wage than walmart. Walmart on the other hand is safely above the line, and has much more wiggle room, but doesn't hide it's reliance on indirect government subsidization of its workers wages.
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And Target doesn't use Walmart practices? - The only differences being #1 Walmart is bigger and is therefore more effective at doing these things and #2 Target is cool, liberal hipsters pronounce it "Tar-shay" as if it were French.
Walmart was NOT the pioneer. They were the most successful. Walmart copied many of Meijer's practices that pioneered much of this...and then Walmart beat Meijer out at their own game. Meanwhile, Meijer still has success using many of the same strategies that Walmart is demonized for...while the Walmart haters go to Meijer.
Amazon has been around for years now and is arguably worse than Walmart in how they treat employees and drive prices down and put out mom and pop stores...but middle and upper class liberals love using it -- that is why it get a free pass.
Amazon isn't walmart though. They're driving down prices because anyone can sell stuff through amazon. It's the next up from ebay.
and as to Target being considered cool... I've never heard any liberal say much of it. I come from a liberal family, and we don't shop at target, just like we don't shop at walmart.
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Yep, GM had the right to strike back in the day, and what happened to that bloated union run shop? Into the toilet it went along with BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars and now that it's owned by the union and ???? not much better.
Wal-Mart is the biggest employer in the US and their workers do not have basic rights in order to strike.
Back when we had a strong middle class, GM workers had the right to right.
Cons, hate the fact that Americans should earn a living wage. Instead, they think that their employees should live off the state.
You people are sick.
As our economy has changed over the past five decades, unions have lost membership. Unions act like businesses, too. They make money from their members. They advertise to acquire members. They sell the idea that employees and employers are adversaries, and that unions can intercede on the behalf of employees and obtain for them better pay and benefits.
For skilled labor, unions have been successful in doing that because the skills that the employees have tip the balance at the negotiating table. For unskilled labor, that's not true. The employees don't have a skill, and employers know that for every position they have at least ten applicants. In order for unions to successfully negotiate on behalf of unskilled labor, they have to recruit a vast majority of that unskilled labor, essentially limiting the labor pool to the employer, and they have to conduct a PR campaign to demonize the employer. Wal-Mart is the largest employer of unskilled laborers in this country. And unions have targeted Wal-Mart, attempting to unionize those unskilled laborers who have refused, in vote after vote after vote, to unionize, and in a full-on PR campaign against Wal-Mart. If the unions can influence public opinion enough, they can change laws, and make unionizing easier for unions.
I support unions when they are employee driven. I don't support unions when the unions have become corporations themselves. And the unions that have waged the campaigns against Wal-Mart are not employee-driven. Wal-Mart doesn't treat its employees any worse than Target or Sears or Home Depot. Its pay is comparable, its benefits are comparable. When Sears started its catalog a century ago, small local shop owners complained about how it hurt their business. Competition forces businesses to be competitive.
The fact that Wal-Mart needs to hold a food drive for their poor and underpaid employees speaks volumes.
I haven't heard of Walmart holding any food drives for their employees. However, if they did, then that is generous of them. They don't "need" to hold food drives for anybody. Walmart is a business. It is not a charity. Its function is to sell products to make a profit. Walmart is not its employees' mommy. It's not their responsibility see that their employees eat right and get a good night's sleep.
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However, sociopath right wingers still don't see a problem with this picture.
I'm sure they don't. Neither do sane right wingers. Anyone who does see a problem with that picture is an economic illiterate.
I haven't heard of Walmart holding any food drives for their employees. However, if they did, then that is generous of them.
They didn't hold a food drive. They had donation bins in the employee-only area, so that Wal-Mart employees could donate food to other employees who might be struggling.
There are people who make six figures who live paycheck-to-paycheck. We don't know what situation someone is in who might work full-time and still need help, while other people are able to make it just fine on the same income.
This morning I was talking to a parking valet at one of the areas largest employers.
he said that this past weekend he went to a free thanksgiving dinner distribution to get a free dinner box, because he only makes $8 per hour!
He could make more working at Walmart or McDonalds!
Maybe he likes the chance to drive lots of different vehicles from the front door to the parking lot and back...
Walmart apparently treated my daughter and her husband quite well for a lot of years. He recently moved on to a store manager position with a different chain of stores. I hope it does well, also.
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