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Old 11-25-2013, 11:23 PM
 
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Via New Republic, a liberal website

"Liberalism has spent the better part of the past century attempting to prove that it could competently and responsibly extend the state into new reaches of American life. With the rollout of the Affordable Care Act, the administration has badly injured that cause, confirming the worst slurs against the federal government. It has stifled bad news and fudged promises; it has failed to translate complex mechanisms of policy into plain English; it can’t even launch a damn website."

Obamacare Failure is a Threat to Liberalism | New Republic

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Old 11-25-2013, 11:26 PM
 
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This is interesting, also part of the liberal website article.

"the Obama White House uses to describe its neurotic supporters who instantly race to the worst-case scenario: They are known as “bed-wetters.” Two months into the dysfunctional life of healthcare.gov, however, that seems a perfectly appropriate physiological reaction."

Obamacare Failure is a Threat to Liberalism | New Republic

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Old 11-26-2013, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:58 AM
 
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"the Affordable Care Act is the Russian novel of social policy, now totaling 20,202 pages. Loopholes and exemptions abound."

"the Democrats are going to suffer the consequences in November 2014. And the country could suffer for years to come."

Obamacare Fiasco Hurts Democrats, Undercuts Faith in Government | New Republic
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:14 AM
 
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I think its a reasonable assumption. Liberalism is a belief that Big Government can do Big Things. When something as catastrophically flawed as Obamacare is considered, I believe that American's will remain very skeptical of any Big Government initiatives for the next 20+ years. We are a right-leaning nation, and we acknowledge failure when we see it, especially something as big and as disastrous as Democrat's Obamacare.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:32 AM
 
Location: WY
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Got a kick out of the video posted in the comments section:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USG_gjaEYak

Anyone else catch the reference to "her" and "she" when talking about the next president? Critical of the health care law, but still a liberal website.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Interesting - 58 views of this thread and only 5 responses. Most threads start off with almost as many posts as views, and then the activity tapers off to a ratio of about 1:10.

Seems that there are a lot of liberals are opening this thread, but once they see the content and its source, they choose to opt out of participating. Can't say that I blame them - it's embarrassing to be proven a fool.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:45 AM
 
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Via New Republic, a liberal website

"Liberalism has spent the better part of the past century attempting to prove that it could competently and responsibly extend the state into new reaches of American life. With the rollout of the Affordable Care Act, the administration has badly injured that cause, confirming the worst slurs against the federal government. It has stifled bad news and fudged promises; it has failed to translate complex mechanisms of policy into plain English; it can’t even launch a damn website."

Obamacare Failure is a Threat to Liberalism | New Republic
Or, in other words.,.. It threatens to reveal big government for what it actually is - incompetent, wasteful, inept, corrupt, and a threat to our welfare. Liberalism is founded on the premise that the opposite is true.

Now liberals are reduced to "government is incompetent wasteful inept corrupt and a threat to your well-being, but it's better than letting you run your own life." Which sells well to a rather small demographic... Liberals and those who only want a handout at someone else's expense (which includes all liberals).
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:47 AM
 
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"the Affordable Care Act is the Russian novel of social policy, now totaling 20,202 pages. Loopholes and exemptions abound."

"the Democrats are going to suffer the consequences in November 2014. And the country could suffer for years to come."

Obamacare Fiasco Hurts Democrats, Undercuts Faith in Government | New Republic
Still arrogant.

The truth is "liberal ideology could suffer a reversal of the eons of brainwashing we've struggled to complete".
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:20 AM
 
Location: The High Plains
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I don't necessarily buy that premise. Most liberals that I know dislike Obamacare, but support it because it's what they believe is the best-worst scenario. I personally think Obamacare is a trainwreck idea but I support single-payer. To me Obamacare isn't a liberal idea...it is a corporatist idea by the Democrats to subsidize the private health insurance market and force universal coverage through the aforementioned private market as opposed to the more reasonable idea of simply expanding Medicare to cover everyone which is the theme of single-payer coverage in most post-industrial nations. There's much more international evidence to suggest that liberal ideas on healthcare, if implemented how most liberals want (single-payer), is a much better option in terms of cost, accessibility, and quality.

The premise by TNR is effectively like saying, that liberals like fast cars....liberals couldn't buy a fast car so they bought a Pinto....the Pinto is slow and doesn't run worth a damn.......therefore liberal ideas regarding fast cars are idiotic.
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