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I guess the catch phrase of the day is "revisionist history".
So...there wasn't a drought?
Or, did the socialists somehow cause the drought?
Actually, the entire story is a libertarian/capitalist fantasy. No. There was no drought. The papers of the original colonists are clear that rather than a period of want, they were often surprised by the abundance of food they were able to raise and gather. This was certainly not true in the Jamestown Colony farther south in Virginia, but they have nothing to do with thanksgiving.
Further, there was also no change in the government of the company or replacement of collective ownership by private property. It was always a capitalist enterprise in which the colonists were employees, not owners. No change to that relationship took place until many, many years after the "events" of this silly story.
I love it when people try to show the Europeans as some sort of invading monster while attempting to show the American Indians as a peaceful, agrarian society. In reality, the American Indians were just as violent for the most part as the Europeans were. The difference was that the Europeans had better technology and were a more cohesive society. Had the technology been the same and/or the Indians more willing to band together in order to repel the invaders, America would have a vastly different society today.
Not quite. The Iroquois Confederacy spanned massive areas of the north-east, mid-west, and Appalacia, and they were much more cohesive and organized than the squabbling colonists from various countries. The Native Americans existed in vast numbers, estimated to be more than the entire population of Europe, before being decimated by a plague that wiped out about 90 percent of the population. We're talking Stephen King's The Stand level apocalypse from their perspective. They were reduced to an agrarian society because that's all they could do. The Europeans just got lucky with timing; it's only because the Native Americans died off that there was no one to stop them from moving in.
Oh, but I agree with you that the Native Americans had no moral high ground there. Warfare and society wise they were still generally several centuries behind Europe, but if the situation was reversed there is little question that the Native Americans would not have hesitated to take over Europe with settlers.
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The Indians helped the Pilgrims, for which they gave thanks. That is true... but it's not the only thing that happened.
After a very bad start, the Pilgrims also helped themselves... by realizing that their form of government was destroying the colony. And they got rid of it, just in time.
We'll have the usual bevy of liberal socialists insisting that since what the Pilgrims did at first, didn't meet 100% of the dictionary definition of "socialism" (it only achieved 90% ), they don't want us to call it that.
But the fact is, what these liberals are pushing today, has never worked... including the first time it was tried on this continent in 1623. Then, as now, it caused only division, discontent, starvation, and death. Not until they got rid of it, did prosperity begin.
In the fall of the year 1623, William Bradford and the pilgrims who resided in Plymouth Plantation sat down for a thanksgiving feast. It was a celebration of a plentiful harvest. It hadn't been so in the preceding couple of years.
The first Thanksgiving was about giving thanks to God. It wasn't the Pilgrims giving thanks to the Indians for their help, as so many today think.
You fail to show where the pilgrims robbed Indian graves, survived on food buried with the dead, and living in an abandoned Indian village the first winter.
Nice job of conveniently ignoring the other difference, that the natives were defending their homes.
They didn't have "homes." The Indians were tribal people, and they lived as a tribe. The white settlers didn't attack the Indians (they would have been fools) until the Indians began attacking and burning the villages of the European settlers.
When I was in school, we learned real history, not the revisionist history of the so-called "Progressives."
They didn't have "homes." The Indians were tribal people, and they lived as a tribe. The white settlers didn't attack the Indians (they would have been fools) until the Indians began attacking and burning the villages of the European settlers.
When I was in school, we learned real history, not the revisionist history of the so-called "Progressives."
LOLOL that's the problem with cons. When they were in second grade, they were taught a "Dick and Jane" style of history appropriate to second graders.
They still believe every word of it, despite the fact they've allegedly "grown up," and that historians have since then uncovered hundreds and hundreds of facts about history that were simply not available, or, more often, omitted from schoolchildren's history books in order to create the usual hero mythology that characterized early education for decades.
If you care about the truth, nononsense, please avail yourself of "Lies My Teacher Told Me." If not, of course, feel free to continue with your second-grade understanding of pretty much everything. The grownups will carry on without you.
PS: I bet you still believe that George Washington chopped down a cherry tree, too.
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