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Expanding access to the advanced classes can require far more of teachers. “If A.P. courses are going to be a successful experience for a variety of students,” said Trevor Packer, the head of the Advanced Placement program at the College Board, the nonprofit organization that administers the exams, “A.P. teaching can’t rely on the ‘sage on the stage’ model that characterized and continues to characterize some of A.P. teaching today.”
Translation: These teachers are going to have to dumb down their curriculum in order to accommodate the increased diversity or else.
Well expanded access isn't bad. I mean with more Blacks and Hispanics taking courses the pass rates should improve, right?
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This year, close to half the students in A.P. classes are Latino, 12 percent are black, and nearly half are eligible for free or reduced lunches. Schoolwide, 70 percent of students are Hispanic, 6 percent are black, and more than two-thirds qualify for lunch aid.
At the same time, passing rates on A.P. exams have edged up. In 2009, 49 percent of the Freedom students who took one received a passing score of 3 or higher. whereas last year, the rate was 51 percent.
A whole two points at this school, let's see how things are faring nationwide.
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Some parents around the country have resisted the expansion of A.P., saying classes are filling with students who cannot manage the work. And pass rates remain low: Last spring, 25 percent of African-Americans and 32 percent of Hispanics who took an A.P. English exam received a passing score; the rates in the social sciences were 30 percent and 35 percent. About two-thirds of white students who took an exam in English or a social science received a passing score.
Well this is not new.
When my son entered MS we got the sheet of electives.
AP classes were listed. The note said anyone could enroll in AP classes but to be aware there was a heavy workload.
This was over 10 years ago in a middle class suburban neighborhood at the start of NCLB.
Everyone is a winner and everyone can. No one is any better than the next guy.
AP classes used to be the harder, more challenging classes for those students with above grade level skills.
Thank God my son is grown and out of school.
For the life of me I can't understand how some parents are so eager to sacrifice the quality of their children's education on the alter of "diversity".
Thank God my son is grown and out of school.
For the life of me I can't understand how some parents are so eager to sacrifice the quality of their children's education on the alter of "diversity".
It's not the parents pushing this but they are enrolling their kids into these classes because having AP classes on your transcript will get you into college is being told to parents all over the country.
We're only fooling ourselves into thinking we're getting smarter.
Well this is not new.
When my son entered MS we got the sheet of electives.
AP classes were listed. The note said anyone could enroll in AP classes but to be aware there was a heavy workload.
This was over 10 years ago in a middle class suburban neighborhood at the start of NCLB.
Everyone is a winner and everyone can. No one is any better than the next guy.
AP classes used to be the harder, more challenging classes for those students with above grade level skills.
This trend is happening all over. There didn't used to be participation trophies. They didn't used to suspend kids for doodling a picture of a gun. They didn't used to put metal detectors in schools. They didn't used to pass kids who can't read so that their stats look better. They didn't used to put the color of your skin or what type of genitalia you have alongside your academic achievements in deciding who is accepted to college. They didn't used to encourage colleges to enroll as many people as possible while ignoring trade schools. They didn't used to try to develop school curriculums in Washington and then force every school in the nation to use that one exact curriculum. They didn't used to have speech codes on campuses that supposed to be about developing open minds and critical thinking skills.
Liberals like to deride conservatives as backwards simpletons for a back to basics approach. It just shows how unsophisticated we are. But take a look at this:
It's not the parents pushing this but they are enrolling their kids into these classes because having AP classes on your transcript will get you into college is being told to parents all over the country.
We're only fooling ourselves into thinking we're getting smarter.
Fair enough, I should have included the schools and Govt.
Translation: These teachers are going to have to dumb down their curriculum in order to accommodate the increased diversity or else.
No where in the link does it say standards have changed to dumb them down. You are just "translating" (making up) that adding diveristy, minority students, means that the test needs to be dumbed down. That minority students are stupider than non minority students.
This isn't hiding the bigotry in the comment very well, sorry to say.
No where in the link does it say standards have changed to dumb them down. You are just "translating" (making up) that adding diveristy, minority students, means that the test needs to be dumbed down. That minority students are stupider than non minority students.
This isn't hiding the bigotry in the comment very well, sorry to say.
The left has been saying that minorities need special considerations to make things "fair" for decades.
So which is it? Should all students be held to the same standards regardless of skin color or not?
If you make it your life's mission to find bigotry, you will see it even where it does not exist.
AP classes around these parts means tons of homework. Saw it with my oldest son, and my daughter is getting it now. I never had that much homework. We are talking 3 or 4 hours per night on most days.
It definitely is not dumbed down here. Sometimes, I do have to re-teach my kids because the teacher makes stuff complicated. Those are usually my problems - how the lessons are taught. I haven't had hardly any complaints on what is taught.
The left has been saying that minorities need special considerations to make things "fair" for decades.
So which is it? Should all students be held to the same standards regardless of skin color or not?
If you make it your life's mission to find bigotry, you will see it even where it does not exist.
Well, what special considerations? Special considerations can be many things.
In some cases it was lowering the standards for minority applicants, but is not stated that it will be done in the OP. It's making the assumption that standards are being lowered without evidence. Sorry, making things up is considered lying. No mission there, that's the definition of the term.
Saying that the only way to get minorities passing AP exams at all is to lower the standards because they are not as smart as whites is bigotry. It would also be bigotry if it was said the only way whites could make the standards is if the standards were lower because they are not as smart. There is no quest or mission in those terms.
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