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Old 11-28-2013, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Reagan took propaganda to a whole new level, and that propaganda works on low information people, hence, an actor like Reagan (He got his first big acting break in 1980 and nailed it!) can convince people that he was competent and he cared about them when he could have cared less about them. Nor did the next two Republican aristocrats give a damn about others unless they were wealthy. Reagan started the reckless spending that is now the Republican trademark.

And he was dead wrong on what Americans want in this country, as Pres. Obama was reelected on the singular issue of Obamacare.


Ronald Reagan on Socialism & Liberalism - YouTube

 
Old 11-29-2013, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Where'd they take that poll? At a Mississippi honky-tonk?

Reagan couldn't win the nomination in his OWN party today if.he had to run on his record as president.

Stop wasting folks' time with this nonsense.
If it is nonsense, why are you bothering to read it and respond?
 
Old 11-29-2013, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The same Reagan that banned guns, gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, was a union leader who led strikes, and gave weapons to Muslim extremists?
better do a little research, some of what you say is true and for that, most of us are sorry: but, there was a reason behind the amnesty bill, which, I will say, he later regretted signing: his involvement with unions was many years before he matured should we say. After becoming a Republican he no longer supported unions and the gun issue is being taken out of context. Your only honest fact, which was his biggest mistake was the weapons to Muslims.
 
Old 11-29-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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Independent Journal Review. Nuff said!
'bagger blog...
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Gee, as decided by average person, who don't have the background to make an intelligent comparison. Show me a poll from historians and we'll have something.
 
Old 11-29-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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says you: I don't know one middle class person who feels they were screwed by Reagan. Most of our friends are retired and doing fairly well. Yes, they were Reagan supporters. The ones that were not are hanging in there as well. I have to wonder, when someone makes a remark like you just made, if they were even around or old enough to vote when he was in politics? Not only can I speak for my peers, I look at my kids and now my grandkids. None of them are suffering due to anything Reagan did or didn't do. Quite honestly they are all doing well. The biggest problem is paying back student loans for our grandkids, is that Reagans fault?
Every time someone questions Reagan you assume they weren't around when he was in office. This is some serious political worship on your part.. its juvenile and condescending.

My family and friends are prospering under Obama... does that make his a success or can I actually take some credit for my hard work? Its short sited and very GOPish to use my success as proof a politician is/was good for the country.
 
Old 11-29-2013, 09:14 AM
 
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"A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not"

Raygun
 
Old 11-29-2013, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Include the people who believed Obama when he said... "if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance period"
I like my insurance and I ended up keeping it...
 
Old 11-29-2013, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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the national debt tripling and unemployment going from 7.5 to 11 is ok with you? giving tax breaks to the rich and raising middle income taxes fine? Iran Contra bother you at all? turning a blind eye to the aids epidemic bothersome? funding "freedom fighters"? amnesty to illegals? dementia in the white house? Nancy dictating his schedule on the advise of her astrologer is a sane way to run the country. no real retaliation for the deaths of over 300 marines in Beirut sits well with you?
First, the national debt did not "triple" under Reagan.

Second (and yet again), the Democratic-controlled Congress spend, on average, 2.8% more than Reagan asked for and 24.5% over 8 years. Every balanced-budget Reagan presented to Congress was declared DOA by (Democrat) Tip O'Neil.

Why did you leave out the part in which the unemployment rate was a low 5.5% by the time Reagan left office? Iran Contra was not illegal at the time it was done.

Amnesty was already explained earlier.

As was the "Reagan ignored AIDS" myth. Can't liberals get anything correct?

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Old 11-29-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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Link: New Poll: Reagan Ranked Greatest President Of Last Hundred Years; Guess Who's the Biggest Failure? | Independent Journal Review

Heartwarming news on Thanksgiving Eve.

And the icing on the cake is that even more people think Obama is a failure than Bush. There's still three more years for his numbers to drop even more.
Always easy to hate the way things are being done now and long for the selectively-remembered glory days. Many elderly in the former USSR long for the "glory days" of Papa Stalin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostalgie
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