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Old 11-30-2013, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Originally Posted by odanny View Post
You are half right. The country is different, people who reject progress and wish to keep America in the 19th Century are being replaced by people of color who reject the retrograde policies of people like Reagan (those policies do favor less than 5% of Americans, it should be noted)

America's best days may very well be ahead of us, if we can keep Republicans from setting this country ablaze before they follow the dinosaur into extinction. We must remain vigilant to this ever present menace.
You'd better get all your supporters in college and off food stamps and cash assistance if you want to pull that off.

 
Old 11-30-2013, 08:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by A Common Anomaly View Post
The Independent Journal Review is a joke. The fact that libertarian conservatives need to hide behind the label "Independent" speaks volumes about their honesty. They are either too ashamed to call themselves Conservative or are so dishonest that they want people to perceive that they are independent, while pushing a radical RW agenda.
Or maybe "Independent" it just means they aren't affiliated with the official Republican or Libertarian parties, genius. Ever think of that? Their headlines are right there on the front page of their site. They are unabashedly conservative. The joke here isn't the Independent Journal Review, it's your post. You don't agree with their politics, that's fine. But this attempt to assign some kind of nefarious motive to them is pathetic.
 
Old 11-30-2013, 10:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
Here's the actual quote...


"Obama signed onto the 2009 budget exploding spending, which he only slightly scaled back."


Obama Signs Fiscal Year 2009 Omnibus Spending Bill -* March 13, 2009
The notion that *either* man could have avoided massive budget deficits in the wake of the 2008 collapse is absurd, but it's similarly absurd to say that Obama "signed onto it", as if he were going to either cut spending by a trillion dollars (thus breaching hundreds of billions in contracts without cause, and inviting many lawsuits), or crushing tax hikes. Budget-wise, the deficits were the correct choice to make under the circumstances.

Compare this to GWB, who even without the financial crisis, turned a surplus into a deficit for no good reason.

ETA: I looked through anyway and...yup, more silliness. Fake scandals, silly claims that the NSA is operating with no oversight, blah blah blah.
 
Old 11-30-2013, 11:00 PM
 
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Again showing how closed minded you are. Of course presidents don't create jobs but their policies can effect job creation and Obama's policies certainly did hurt businesses, they are downsizing and there is no reason to take a risk to grow business which hurts job creation.

Obama’s average unemployment has been 8.8% (Bush’s was 5.27%),
labor force participation rate is at the lowest since Oct. 1978 at 63.4%, without the benefit of much job growth -

the country has netted 270,000 jobs since 2009, and the majority of Obama’s job creation has been temp & part-time jobs. No hype, no contest.
President's don't control unemployment rate, only really naive or stupid people think that.

My salary is double what it was 2 years ago, and Obama had nothing to do with it. My salary was slightly above minimum wage when Bush was President, didn't blame him either.

Stop looking at the government as some sort of savior or big brother who will take care of you, newsflash, they don't care about you, even Republican government doesn't care about you.

Start looking in the mirror and stop pointing the finger.
 
Old 11-30-2013, 11:02 PM
 
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Not a single banker was prosecuted by Obama after the 2008-9 crash.

He's a swindler himself, so why would he prosecute his fellow swindlers?
 
Old 11-30-2013, 11:05 PM
 
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Not a single banker was prosecuted by Obama after the 2008-9 crash.

He's a swindler himself, so why would he prosecute his fellow swindlers?
Contrary to what right wing nutjobs claim, Obama loves big business.

Don't tell them that though, all they know is what Limbaugh tells them, "he's a racist socialist Muslim who hates America, and he's Black!!!"
 
Old 12-01-2013, 12:08 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Originally Posted by swirling_vortex View Post
I've always found this one a bit amusing. The coal industry always claims that the government is responsible for them losing profits, yet the decline for coal usage recently has been the increase in domestic natural gas drilling.

In Appalachia, Coal Struggles to Compete With Natural Gas

Does this mean Republicans will join in the anti-shale movement? Tune in and find out.

TLDR: The market is making coal less effective.
You're viewing the markets in a very simplistic way. It's partly true that cheap NG is hurting coal, but is not the primary reason. Obama's new carbon rules are targeting the coal industry specifically. This is the way he does business. He promises that we can keep our plans if they meet his standards, and then creates standards that 80% of existing plans won't meet.

The markets adapt to the conditions of the times. Obama hates cheap energy, and he is doing his best to make it unaffordable.

I'd like to know, how does...

-healthcare costs skyrocketing
-energy costs skyrocketing (even during the biggest domestic resource boon in history)
-low paying part time jobs replacing full time jobs
-the biggest expansion of welfare in history

...translate into progress for the schleps (12% think he's doing a great job) who still back this madman?

Obama now has an approval rating of just 34% in Ohio as of Friday. People are waking up.

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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
Contrary to what right wing nutjobs claim, Obama loves big business.

Don't tell them that though, all they know is what Limbaugh tells them, "he's a racist socialist Muslim who hates America, and he's Black!!!"
Whoa... you are as bad as the people you're calling out man! Anyone with a brain understands he's as white as any politician. Both sides of the political class have the same masters. Both sides have decided the people serve them, rather than the other way around.

You LWNJs only look like fools now. The left had a chance to really change things, which was squandered in so blatantly that the Republicans now have a higher approval rating.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/hotli...gress-20131113

Good job! You guys have nobody to blame but yourselves!

Last edited by surfman; 12-01-2013 at 12:19 PM..
 
Old 12-02-2013, 06:44 AM
 
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The Reagan White House had more criminals in it (than any other White House in American history.)

Reagan administration scandals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Its heartwarming news that American's respect criminals?

I'm scared you would steal my wallet.
LOL. The hypocrisy. I read through there, and don't see anywhere that one of his closest friends and advisers was a domestic terrorist, as is the case with Obama.

When the dust settles, and we are 25 years removed from the Obama administration, that list of Reagan's will look puny in comparison.
 
Old 12-02-2013, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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LOL. The hypocrisy. I read through there, and don't see anywhere that one of his closest friends and advisers was a domestic terrorist, as is the case with Obama.

When the dust settles, and we are 25 years removed from the Obama administration, that list of Reagan's will look puny in comparison.
Which one of Obama's "closest friends and advisers was a domestic terrorist?"
 
Old 12-02-2013, 08:09 AM
 
Location: NC
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The best GOP president the past 100 years was Eisenhower. Reagen would be second IMO. All of the rest are almost near the bottom for rankings, save maybe the first Bush who I would give average.

Best Democratic presient would be FDR. Kennedy may be 2nd over Clinton but the former has some historical "hype" to go with him for obvious reasons.
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