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Old 11-30-2013, 06:53 AM
 
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No, they encapsulate the cause. Human nature is going to have people at the top and people at the bottom. Communism, every where it has been tried, has included millions of people getting very little while a few elite get everything they want. At least with capitalism the people have opportunities to improve their lives.
Agreed. This "all people are equal" stuff DOESN'T fly with communism despite them saying otherwise.
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Old 11-30-2013, 07:17 AM
 
Location: US
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I'm sorry, but he's revered by progressive leadership.

Don't let them know you're a rebellious capitalist / conservative.
^

Exactly.
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Old 11-30-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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No lie, I saw a man protesting the death penalty wearing a Che Guevera shirt...yes, this same Che that executed men without trial.

How much do you want to bet that this same guy justifies Obama out Bushing Bush on issues that he criticized Bush for?
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Old 11-30-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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Sounds like a Tea Party manifesto to me. Violence, unquestioning dedication to a principle and quashing all dissent, refusal to compromise, ignoring any damages (including human) that may occur as a result of their actions, promoting carrying of firearms and the joy of killing, and racism.

All the high points.
What a crock! It's more like the Occupy Wall Street crowd. Where are you getting this nonsense about the Tea Party?
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:15 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Very unlike. It seems to be YOU who is ignorant.
Well, in my view Jesus would be embarrassed by 90% of people referring to themselves as Christians today, especially the vocal ones like evangelists, wealthy ones, violent ones...


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No, they encapsulate the cause. Human nature is going to have people at the top and people at the bottom. Communism, every where it has been tried, has included millions of people getting very little while a few elite get everything they want. At least with capitalism the people have opportunities to improve their lives.
In my view Western societies have also failed, I see no long-term future and sense in our current system, either, it is highly destructive, unsustainable, and immoral. The new pope got it pretty right, judging from his remarks...
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Old 11-30-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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Well, in my view Jesus would be embarrassed by 90% of people referring to themselves as Christians today, especially the vocal ones like evangelists, wealthy ones, violent ones...




In my view Western societies have also failed, I see no long-term future and sense in our current system, either, it is highly destructive, unsustainable, and immoral. The new pope got it pretty right, judging from his remarks...
Uh; our system is still MUCH better than any 3rd world country; otherwise millions of their people wouldn't be trying to come to the US and Europe, even if illegally.
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Old 11-30-2013, 02:08 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Uh; our system is still MUCH better than any 3rd world country; otherwise millions of their people wouldn't be trying to come to the US and Europe, even if illegally.
That is not the point. I won't make the mistake to think system a is the solution just because it is slightly less crappy than system b.
Most people are simple-minded and egoistic, just thinking of themselves and their children, basically animals. That is also the reason why good ideas and visions to change the world for the better never work. Pearls before swine...
Many people seem to think that because they are doing well, the system they are doing well in must be good. That is a big mistake in my view.
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Old 11-30-2013, 06:35 PM
 
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I'm sure some around here hold him in high regard. Just thought I would share some of his "greatest" misses.

Che Guevara in 10 (Not So) Great Quotes

Ernesto Lynch, more commonly known by his chosen name, Che Guevara, was born in Rosario, Argentina to Irish and Argentine parents in 1928. Che, who was an instrumental figure in the Cuban Revolution, and fought to incite communist revolutions in several countries in South America, has long been the idol of left-wing teenagers and university students in the West due to the popularity of a few memorable anti-consumerist quotes from his written works.

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1) “Youth must refrain from ungrateful questioning of governmental mandates. Instead, they must dedicate themselves to study, work and military service.”

2) “Youth should learn to think and act as a mass. It is criminal to think as individuals!”

3) “The victory of Socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims!”

4) “We must do away with all newspapers. A revolution cannot be accomplished with freedom of the press.”

5) “To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary. These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate.”

6) “Hatred is the central element of our struggle! Hatred so violent that it propels a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him a violent and cold-blooded killing machine. Our soldiers must be thus.”

7) “The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have conserved their racial purity by a lack of affinity with washing, have seen their patch invaded by a different kind of slave: The Portugese.”

8) “The black is indolent and fanciful, he spends his money on frivolity and drink; the European comes from a tradition of working and saving which follows him to this corner of America and drives him to get ahead.”

9) “I fired a .32 caliber bullet into the right hemisphere of his brain which came out through his left temple. He moaned for a few moments, then died.”

10) “I’d like to confess, Papa, at that moment I discovered that I really like killing.”



Houston Obama campaign office...

This is why the average lib loves Che. They just can't get enough of homicidal tyrants who oppose liberty.
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Old 11-30-2013, 07:04 PM
 
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Well, in my view Jesus would be embarrassed by 90% of people referring to themselves as Christians today, especially the vocal ones like evangelists, wealthy ones, violent ones...
Explain how you know what Jesus thinks.

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In my view Western societies have also failed, I see no long-term future and sense in our current system, either, it is highly destructive, unsustainable, and immoral. The new pope got it pretty right, judging from his remarks...
Yes, we all know that societies with governments that have no limits and control everything are always the most moral and righteous. YOu know, like Cuba, China, North Korea, most of the Middle East... Yes, your version of "morality by force" is SOOOOO effective and proven.
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Old 11-30-2013, 08:41 PM
 
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Do enumerate these no doubt legion examples of tea party violence I have yet to hear of.
He can't.....because he's completely full of ****.
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