Idiot in Oregon introduces punitive nicotine bill (illegal, health care, premium)
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Idiot representative Mitch Greenlick introduced a bill that makes any nicotine product a controlled substance. This bill "Creates crime of unlawful possession of nicotine, effective until rules adopted. Punishes by maximum of one year's imprisonment, $6,250 fine, or both. Creates crime of unlawful distribution of nicotine, effective until rules adopted. Punishes by maximum of one year's imprisonment, $6,250 fine, or both."
Greenlick is a poster child for the Big Government Nanny State. So we elect idiots like Greenlick and then wonder why our Government has grown so big, powerful and expensive. Maybe it's the voters who are idiots.
Jacking the prices through taxation has reduced cigarette use, but something is needed to get the hard core abusers and a jail term and fines may be the answer. Cigarettes smokers cost all of us billions in higher health care costs so we all have a stake in stopping them.
Jacking the prices through taxation has reduced cigarette use, but something is needed to get the hard core abusers and a jail term and fines may be the answer. Cigarettes smokers cost all of us billions in higher health care costs so we all have a stake in stopping them.
Please post your diet,exercise regime, sexual preferences, genetic history and any other habits or risk factors that might indicate you are an increased liability to the health care pool.
Once identified, we can then get you some help through our excellent prison system and return you to society as a healthy and productive contributor to the tax base.
Jacking the prices through taxation has reduced cigarette use, but something is needed to get the hard core abusers and a jail term and fines may be the answer. Cigarettes smokers cost all of us billions in higher health care costs so we all have a stake in stopping them.
If they are paying their insurance premiums then you really have no say do you ?
All the drunk drivers are driving up car insurance costs and we don't yell and scream about that do we ?
All those people who continue to build homes along the ocean drive up homeowner insurance and we don't yell and scream about that do we ?
Alcohol abuse costs a lot in healthcare costs as well.
What you propose is that we punish anyone who "costs too much" to the system so your premiums go down ?
If they are paying their insurance premiums then you really have no say do you ?
All the drunk drivers are driving up car insurance costs and we don't yell and scream about that do we ?
All those people who continue to build homes along the ocean drive up homeowner insurance and we don't yell and scream about that do we ?
Alcohol abuse costs a lot in healthcare costs as well.
What you propose is that we punish anyone who "costs too much" to the system so your premiums go down ?
Just smokers for now though I do believe that drunk driving is illegal and can end you in jail already.
Just smokers for now though I do believe that drunk driving is illegal and can end you in jail already.
Your concern seems to be about health insurance though.
But drinking itself is not illegal.
Having a pack of cigarettes would get you a fine a year in jail.
You don't even get that harsh a punishment with DWI.
How can someone be punished for doing something that is legal?
Ponderosa, what if your governor decided driving a car or truck that runs on gasoline is punishable by a fine or imprisonment because those vehicles create pollution and use up valuable resources? Would you be OK with that?
This guy should go after the obese; I bet they use more medical services than smokers. I smoke, and haven't seen a doctor in years. I have a co-worker who doesn't smoke and she goes to the doctor for the slightest sniffle, and gets antibiotics which only serves to mutate the virus, so when someone REALLY gets sick, those same antibiotics will be ineffective.
Jacking the prices through taxation has reduced cigarette use, but something is needed to get the hard core abusers and a jail term and fines may be the answer. Cigarettes smokers cost all of us billions in higher health care costs so we all have a stake in stopping them.
I am very thankful that Big Government Nanny State advocates like you are in the minority here in the USA.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.