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Old 11-29-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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Who in their right mind supports low wages? Low wage workers are a burden on the tax payer. Shouldn't everyone who works full time have the means to support himself? Not supporting this concept is akin to supporting slavery. What kind of jerk do you have to be to want full time workers to make starvation wages?
A low skills person = Low wages. It's up to you to increase your skill set and then because obtaining higher skills isn't the easy road and you have knowledge companies are willing to pay more for you. Until you face those facts you'll remain angry and continue to get low wages. Sorry, that's the way it is.
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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A low skills person = Low wages. It's up to you to increase your skill set and then because obtaining higher skills isn't the easy road and you have knowledge companies are willing to pay more for you. Until you face those facts you'll remain angry and continue to get low wages. Sorry, that's the way it is.
What you don't understand is that a) everyone can't get a high paid job and b) those low skill jobs will not go away.

The way the economy works, there will be many different skill level jobs and many different wages. The possibility for a person to move up to a better job doesn't mean it's OK that low end jobs pay less than a living wage. But by increasing the minimum to a living wage, you ensure that all jobs at least meet the bare minimum pay required for a person to survive.

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Old 11-29-2013, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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What you don't understand is that a) everyone can't get a high paid job and b) those low skill jobs will not go away.

The way the economy works, there will be many different skill level jobs and many different wages. The possibility for a person to move up to a better job doesn't mean it's OK that low end jobs pay less than a living wage. But by increasing the minimum to a living wage, you ensure that all jobs at least meet the bare minimum pay required for a person to survive.
Then, again, YOU give up half of your pay, along with ALL those agree with you, to subsidize these low paying jobs. How about that? You want his great equality, etc PAY FOR IT. Put YOUR money where your mouth is; not someone else's money.
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:07 PM
 
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What you don't understand is that a) everyone can't get a high paid job and b) those low skill jobs will not go away.

The way the economy works, there will be many different skill level jobs and many different wages. The possibility for a person to move up to a better job doesn't mean it's OK that low end jobs pay less than a living wage. But by increasing the minimum to a living wage, you ensure that all jobs at least meet the bare minimum pay required for a person to survive.
The problems being of course:

A) Defining the "bare minimum pay required for a person to survive"

B) Supporting the additional people who are unemployed because outsourcing, automation, and making business processes less labor-intensive becomes more attractive at a higher minimum wage

C) The impact of wage compression and inflation on the working class

I'm for having some sort of minimum wage, but there are a lot of complications and determining what level it should be is no simple thing, and there are societal drawbacks as well as benefits to raising it.
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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Who in their right mind supports low wages? Low wage workers are a burden on the tax payer. Shouldn't everyone who works full time have the means to support himself? Not supporting this concept is akin to supporting slavery. What kind of jerk do you have to be to want full time workers to make starvation wages?
Less of a jerk than the arrogant twits who want all low skilled people to stay unemployed because hiring them is too expensive.
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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Then, again, YOU give up half of your pay, along with ALL those agree with you, to subsidize these low paying jobs. How about that? You want his great equality, etc PAY FOR IT. Put YOUR money where your mouth is; not someone else's money.
That's what we're doing by subsidizing those jobs with government programs... And we shouldn't be. The corporations that depend on these people to make money for them should be the ones responsible for paying them a living wage.


Paying less than a living wage is like owning a horse and not feeding it enough, and justifying it by saying "Well why don't YOU pay for more hay for my horse?"
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Old 11-29-2013, 06:16 PM
 
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For those of you complaining about getting paid more money. Why the hell don't you start your own business and then you can pay yourself. The constant b*tching from you lefties is sickening. You sound like a bunch of helpless whining babies.

What's wrong, Obama won't help you build that? Bi*ch at him.
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Old 11-29-2013, 06:19 PM
 
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What you don't understand is that a) everyone can't get a high paid job and b) those low skill jobs will not go away.

The way the economy works, there will be many different skill level jobs and many different wages. The possibility for a person to move up to a better job doesn't mean it's OK that low end jobs pay less than a living wage. But by increasing the minimum to a living wage, you ensure that all jobs at least meet the bare minimum pay required for a person to survive.
There will always be middle class and rich and there will always be poor. It's up to you which one you are.
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Old 11-29-2013, 06:20 PM
 
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Enough said.
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Old 11-29-2013, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Thanks for sharing your "final solution", Herr whogo.
You're welcome.
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