Do guns in America make it difficult for a foreign army to invade the US? (generation, death)
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If you think out of shape middle aged men with guns scares any one....lol
We left Vietnam because of a bunch of armed citizens from both North and South Vietnam kept attacking us. We got sick of it, so we left. We left Iraq largely for the same reason, though we really didn't want to be there in the first place. We will soon leave Afghanistan for exactly the same reason.
Guerilla warfare works very very well. Americans are better armed than any nation on earth. They are better educated on how to make bombs, explosives, mines and their own homemade weapons than any other nation on earth. And there are now 317 million of those very well armed Americans. Not all of them are middle aged or out of shape, but it hardly matters. A group of out of shape middle aged men or women with some guns, explosives and the right know-how can wreak a lot more havoc than you would believe possible. In addition, Americans are highly adaptable and stubborn by nature. Those who do not know how would learn and master guerilla warfare much sooner than you'd think possible.
Yes the US military is a massive deterrent. There are no credible threats to the USA in this hemisphere, so any would-be invasion force must cross either the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean and invade amphibiously. Our military would chew their invasion force to pieces ... that is if they even managed to get past our Navy intact. Add to that everything I've said above. Even if you could invade and occupy, you'd be occupying a giant meat-grinder the likes of which the world has never seen before. Taken together, you might just have the least appealing prospective conquest in human history.
The notion comes from another time frankly. We're past the age of conventional warfare being a threat to the United States, in the era of nuclear weapons countries like the US are immune to invasion. Any nation with the idea that it might want to try would not go through with it because of the threat of nuclear retaliation. The imminent threat of nuclear war is what kept the Cold War cold and it's the one important factor in the modern world when it comes to relations with any potential invader. Guns don't factor into the matter anymore and people focus on them because it makes them feel more relevant and powerful in a geopolitical atmosphere where they are frankly dwarfed by nuclear destructive power. It's bringing a knife to a submarine battle.
Why is America being invaded? The way I see it, is unless America did something really, really, REALLY stupid, you guys would never be in it alone anyway. Odds are Canada would still help defend you at any rate (and please, don't give me crap about Canada's military either. Any of you that have fought beside them, or at least picked up a history book, know their bite is far worse than their bark). Some of you don't want foreign troops on your land (who are there to help you), and that's fine, because any war that is going to be fought to invade America, is going to be on Canadian soil.
Assuming the nuclear option is for some reason off the table in this scenario, the only place an invading force intent of going after America would really be able to assemble any sort of boots/material on the ground, is probably somewhere in the remote interior of northern Canada. In that case, it's actually pretty "simple". Odds are it would be somewhere well north of Edmonton. Sucks for them. There is nothing but muskeg, boreal forest, moose, bears, wolverines, cougars, black flies, mosquitoes, and a limited road network up there.
Meanwhile, Canadian and American troops hold the line. I don't think there are any two nations on Earth that are more integrated then ours in every single way, especially when it come to military action. There won't even be a hiccup in tactics, communication, etc, etc.
The rest of the planet mobilizes and makes landfall on Canadian soil to join in the fight. There's more then enough room for everyone. Pick a spot, any spot, and dig in.
Troops from Alaska can come on down and we'll just encompass them in their little spot, in the middle of absolutly nowhere. Keep them there with no food, no supplies, and wait for winter to come. Canadian and Alaskan troops will have no problem sitting up there in the snow, and -40 temps. I doubt the invaders will be prepared for that kind of weather. Unless it's Russia, or course.
And contrary to popular belief, Canadians are also a very well armed society. Maybe not a whole lot of the same selection of weapons, but the same marksmanship, the same ability to make whatever we need, and most importantly, the same feirce determination to defend freedom and democracy. So, we'll be out there doing hit and runs as well, if somehow if came to that. Nobody but Canadians and Americans (and Mexicans) will have control over this continent. Not in this lifetime anyway.
Might sound silly, but that's how I see things lol
We left Vietnam because of a bunch of armed citizens from both North and South Vietnam kept attacking us. We got sick of it, so we left. We left Iraq largely for the same reason, though we really didn't want to be there in the first place. We will soon leave Afghanistan for exactly the same reason.
Guerilla warfare works very very well. Americans are better armed than any nation on earth. They are better educated on how to make bombs, explosives, mines and their own homemade weapons than any other nation on earth. And there are now 317 million of those very well armed Americans. Not all of them are middle aged or out of shape, but it hardly matters. A group of out of shape middle aged men or women with some guns, explosives and the right know-how can wreak a lot more havoc than you would believe possible. In addition, Americans are highly adaptable and stubborn by nature. Those who do not know how would learn and master guerilla warfare much sooner than you'd think possible.
Yes the US military is a massive deterrent. There are no credible threats to the USA in this hemisphere, so any would-be invasion force must cross either the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean and invade amphibiously. Our military would chew their invasion force to pieces ... that is if they even managed to get past our Navy intact. Add to that everything I've said above. Even if you could invade and occupy, you'd be occupying a giant meat-grinder the likes of which the world has never seen before. Taken together, you might just have the least appealing prospective conquest in human history.
Seriously, if a foreign government/military believes it can defeat the US military and invade this nation, that foreign nation that believes it could defeat the US military would not be afraid to invade based on some fear of out of shape middle aged men with guns. lol
Please think rationally.
Why is America being invaded? The way I see it, is unless America did something really, really, REALLY stupid, you guys would never be in it alone anyway. Odds are Canada would still help defend you at any rate (and please, don't give me crap about Canada's military either. Any of you that have fought beside them, or at least picked up a history book, know their bite is far worse than their bark). Some of you don't want foreign troops on your land (who are there to help you), and that's fine, because any war that is going to be fought to invade America, is going to be on Canadian soil.
Assuming the nuclear option is for some reason off the table in this scenario, the only place an invading force intent of going after America would really be able to assemble any sort of boots/material on the ground, is probably somewhere in the remote interior of northern Canada. In that case, it's actually pretty "simple". Odds are it would be somewhere well north of Edmonton. Sucks for them. There is nothing but muskeg, boreal forest, moose, bears, wolverines, cougars, black flies, mosquitoes, and a limited road network up there.
Meanwhile, Canadian and American troops hold the line. I don't think there are any two nations on Earth that are more integrated then ours in every single way, especially when it come to military action. There won't even be a hiccup in tactics, communication, etc, etc.
The rest of the planet mobilizes and makes landfall on Canadian soil to join in the fight. There's more then enough room for everyone. Pick a spot, any spot, and dig in.
Troops from Alaska can come on down and we'll just encompass them in their little spot, in the middle of absolutly nowhere. Keep them there with no food, no supplies, and wait for winter to come. Canadian and Alaskan troops will have no problem sitting up there in the snow, and -40 temps. I doubt the invaders will be prepared for that kind of weather. Unless it's Russia, or course.
And contrary to popular belief, Canadians are also a very well armed society. Maybe not a whole lot of the same selection of weapons, but the same marksmanship, the same ability to make whatever we need, and most importantly, the same feirce determination to defend freedom and democracy. So, we'll be out there doing hit and runs as well, if somehow if came to that. Nobody but Canadians and Americans (and Mexicans) will have control over this continent. Not in this lifetime anyway.
Might sound silly, but that's how I see things lol
A modern mechanized military requires infrastructure. Tanks may be able to roll over the frozen treeless tundra, but they are not going to be able to plow through hundreds of miles of forest, mountains, and muskeg. That is why we built the Al-Can Highway during WW II, so we could get to Alaska without using the sea. If the intent is to invade the North American continent, then it will begin below 50°N.
Alaska and Canada are not worth invading on their own. They would never be able to pacify either long enough to hold them, much less make either productive. So what would be the point?
Seriously, if a foreign government/military believes it can defeat the US military and invade this nation, that foreign nation that believes it could defeat the US military would not be afraid to invade based on some fear of out of shape middle aged men with guns. lol
Please think rationally.
He sounded pretty logical to me. Obviously you underestimate your fellow Americans, and those so called out of shape middle aged men and their abilities. In fact if s*** ever hit the fan in this country I'm sure they'll do a lot better in survival than most Americans.
They don't have to. They just need to get out of the ghettos. Whereas a lot of Mexico is a ghetto. Had a conversation about that recently; it seems the areas near the US border are the real disaster. Farther south, maybe not as bad. Tourist enclaves are insulated.
Have you ever looked at a map of the USA and Mexico and seen how the major highway infrastructure just... stops, at the border? The contrast is stark. It's a good gauge of the relative levels of wealth.
Not our problem. Mexico needs to fix itself and if it doesn't step up, let it die.
Not our problem. Mexico needs to fix itself and if it doesn't step up, let it die.
Aaaand those who don't want to die with it come here, just as most of us would do.
There, I think we all understand one another on the subject of illegal immigration. May not agree on how it should be handled, but the reality is hard to argue with.
As for the topic, I think the way the OP worded the question in the subject title allows for a fair debate. Some people are responding with, "If they're gonna do it, we won't be able to stop them" but that's not the question. Would it make it difficult, is the question, and I think it would. It would mean they'd have to take longer in ensuring every location is neutralized. The entire nation would know of the first attack within minutes and would no doubt be preparing, that's another thing to consider.
All great empires are settled by the people they once conquered... Look at Europe, they have a muslim birth rate of 9 to 1 for every ethnic European. Many European countries will be Muslim majority in the next 40-50 years.
America? We are going to be hispanic majority by 2030 to 2040, which is fine. However, before that point our currency will most likely collapse as China rises to prominence.
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