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Old 12-17-2013, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Then NYC law that the OP quoted has been in place since 1991, never been challenged.
The handgun Ban in Chicago lasted nearly three decades before it was finally challenged and overturned..... what's you point?
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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The SAFE act was minimal legislation and guns are just
one facet of life, no one is leaving a good job in a good school district in a
great neighborhood because they are restricted to 10 rounds.
Before you go and call the SAFE Act "minimal" legislation, you might actually want to learn what it is and what it does, because you obviously have no idea. There was already a magazine capacity limit of 10 rounds in the state of NY. The SAFE Act, in it's original language, assigned a new limitation of 7 round magazines, which was one of the most controversial provisions of the law.

That provision of the law was changed after the law makers who haphazardly threw it together and passed it in the dead of night realized that there was no such thing as 7 round magazine. After they had this epiphany, they declared that you could keep your 10 round magazine but you could only put 7 bullets in it.... After that, they suspended the entire provision after they realized that they had not written an exemption in to the law for law enforcement and security personnel.

I guess this is what passes for competent law making in NY
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Old 12-17-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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That provision of the law was changed after the law makers who haphazardly threw it together and passed it in the dead of night realized that there was no such thing as 7 round magazine. :
Maybe they all just think people should only own 1911s.
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Maybe they all just think people should only own 1911s.
lol, I don't know......

The 7 round magazine provision would have effectively banned 95% of semi-automatic handguns in the state of NY though.....
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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having lived in Italy before for 12 years, I can tell you that some parts are actually good, but some other parts are worse than living in the USA. I am glad I live here in the USA rather than live in Europe where the government tends to tax the crap out of the people they are suppose to be serving.
I agree: but the worse parts of Italy don't have crime and murder rates comparable to Georgia, Mississippi or Louisiana's ones

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I did not say that NYC will fail, you said that. I said that NYC will have lost revenue from people that leave due to poor laws.
Poor laws?
Oh yeah, unregulated sales of deadly weapons is the best choice
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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I agree: but the worse parts of Italy don't have crime and murder rates comparable to Georgia, Mississippi or Louisiana's ones



Poor laws?
Oh yeah, unregulated sales of deadly weapons is the best choice
The laws are unlawful according to the bill of rights.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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Before you go and call the SAFE Act "minimal" legislation, you might actually want to learn what it is and what it does, because you obviously have no idea. There was already a magazine capacity limit of 10 rounds in the state of NY. The SAFE Act, in it's original language, assigned a new limitation of 7 round magazines, which was one of the most controversial provisions of the law.

That provision of the law was changed after the law makers who haphazardly threw it together and passed it in the dead of night realized that there was no such thing as 7 round magazine. After they had this epiphany, they declared that you could keep your 10 round magazine but you could only put 7 bullets in it.... After that, they suspended the entire provision after they realized that they had not written an exemption in to the law for law enforcement and security personnel.

I guess this is what passes for competent law making in NY
Well, hopefully sooner or later NYC will have gun laws as lenient as in the "great" state of Ohio.

More guns on the streets will make NYC as safe as Akron, Cincinnati, Dayton, Youngstown, Cleveland... oh wait... nevermind
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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The laws are unlawful according to the bill of rights.
Yawn... move to Nebraska.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:28 PM
 
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Yawn... move to Nebraska.
I'm not in NY ***Yawn****
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Old 12-17-2013, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Before you go and call the SAFE Act "minimal" legislation, you might actually want to learn what it is and what it does, because you obviously have no idea. There was already a magazine capacity limit of 10 rounds in the state of NY. The SAFE Act, in it's original language, assigned a new limitation of 7 round magazines, which was one of the most controversial provisions of the law.

That provision of the law was changed after the law makers who haphazardly threw it together and passed it in the dead of night realized that there was no such thing as 7 round magazine. After they had this epiphany, they declared that you could keep your 10 round magazine but you could only put 7 bullets in it.... After that, they suspended the entire provision after they realized that they had not written an exemption in to the law for law enforcement and security personnel.

I guess this is what passes for competent law making in NY
I stand corrected 10 round magazines with a 7 round limit and yes I view that entire legislation as minimal.

Chicago was complete ban on handguns this is minor this is not even close. There were some flaws as you pointed out but many positives in the legislation.
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