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And I accept it, as the cost is still primarily born on the person doing the action. Its a small price for the ability to do what I want.
But you will lose the ability to do what you want.
See, it's the same folks who want socialized medicine who also want to regulate your life. The people who want to ban smoking, ban happy meals, ban salt, and ban large sodas are the same people who are supporting Obamacare. You vote for them to get your socialized medicine, you are also voting for them to tell you what you can eat and drink.
But you will lose the ability to do what you want.
See, it's the same folks who want socialized medicine who also want to regulate your life. The people who want to ban smoking, ban happy meals, ban salt, and ban large sodas are the same people who are supporting Obamacare. You vote for them to get your socialized medicine, you are also voting for them to tell you what you can eat and drink.
So few Americans seem to understand what you have written, kidkaos. Dictating what we eat, drink, or say for our own good, no doubt, is just the beginning for those who seek to control our lives.
So few Americans seem to understand what you have written, kidkaos. Dictating what we eat, drink, or say for our own good, no doubt, is just the beginning for those who seek to control our lives.
Actually I prefer to have more honesty in the food we eat, too often we end up consuming foods that are actually bad for our bodies without not knowing it is bad for us. The more people educate themselves, the better choices they can make, but I have no problem with telling those that make food what they can and cannot do to our food and drink.
Actually I prefer to have more honesty in the food we eat, too often we end up consuming foods that are actually bad for our bodies without not knowing it is bad for us. The more people educate themselves, the better choices they can make, but I have no problem with telling those that make food what they can and cannot do to our food and drink.
Who are YOU to tell me or anyone else what I can or cannot eat, drink, say, or do? You don't pay my bills. You didn't earn my paycheck.
I see no difference between those who wish to regulate an adult's sex life and those who wish to control an adult's lunch menu. The arrogance of some people is astounding.
Who are YOU to tell me or anyone else what I can or cannot eat, drink, say, or do? You don't pay my bills. You didn't earn my paycheck.
I see no difference between those who wish to regulate an adult's sex life and those who wish to control an adult's lunch menu. The arrogance of some people is astounding.
I am not telling you what you can and cannot eat, I am educating you on what is good and bad to eat and want to reduce bad things that are made in food and drinks that are hidden within products that people don't realize what is bad for them.
If you want to shove gut busting fast food into your belly day in and day out, that is up to you, but you should have the education to know the damages it is doing to you.
We often act in ways we think are in our best interest but actually aren’t. Education is key to making good choices. I agree with you there, urban. But if we begin to accept the legislation of personal choice as a legitimate function of government there is absolutely no area of our personal lives that supercilious bureaucrats cannot try to dictate.
lol. How it is "untruthful?" I'm just offering my opinion. Are you trying to say I really do not believe that I believe this. IOW you're capable of reading my mind????
You don't offer any real argument, just name-calling--"brain-damaged," "hard leftist" (now that one stings)--so I won't respond to that.
But you are wrong about the cost of health care being unrelated to behavior. According to the CDC, 75% of health care costs are do to "chronic disease" which is largely preventable, i.e. due to behavior. Mostly diet, alcohol, tobacco, and lack of activity. CDC - Chronic Disease - Overview
I'm in my late 50's, don't drink/drug/smoke, and run marathons. The only medical care I've ever really needed in my adult life was about 20 years ago when I got precautionary x-rays after a motorcycle accident. File that under 'behavior,' btw.
I actually agree with you here......people need to keep their selves in check with weight. I do believe the medical field does not address this simple problem due to loss of income. If people knew hormone balance, ph balance and exercise cure most all aliments the doctors would go broke. I'm not saying doctors are scamming just saying, seems, "a pill or psychiatrist a day" is what keeps the doctor away!
On another subject.......there's no known connection to pot smokers having health issues in a large mass, that I've heard of. Skeptics are just assuming there will be health issues in the future. I know people who have smoked pot most of their adult life they're very active outdoors........ Skiers, snowboarders, hikers, runners, hunters and people with jobs,. They also had their own health care plan that they paid for out of their pocket. Not your basic, irresponsible pot smoker that the anti-pot smokers like to portray......here lies the difference.
Do what you want with your own body if you're the one paying the insurance cost. Who's to say a glass of wine or two is better for a person over a joint. If one is a health issue so is the other! I've seen more damage from alcohol and presciption drugs, than any everyday pot smoker taking care of his/her own life by providing their own health insurance.
There was a thread asking who has changed their mind on an issue. It snuck up on me, but I realized today that I've moved from anti to pro nannyism. We had a state initiative last year to legalize pot here (WA). I voted against it, even though I used to smoke pot as a teen, regard it as less harmful than booze, and in any case believe that it's your body, your right.
Obamacare had already been signed into law. Under that scenario, it may be your body, but it's my wallet that's going to be tapped if you end up with respiratory or other issues from smoking pot.
We have a state-run exchange here for Obamacare sign ups. Of 176,000 enrollments, 9 of 10 are for medicaid. In other words, the taxpayer pays the bill. I don't drink/smoke/drug or even drink sugary drinks, so what do I care about a nanny state? But I will be helping to pay the bill for those who do, under Obamacare.
So now I say: bring on the nanny state. Ban tobacco, you've got my vote. Mayor Bloomberg restricting sugary drinks..you've got my vote too. War on drugs, hell yeah. Ban risky sports like tackle football, sure. Unsafe sex, unleash the vice squad. Mandatory waistline checks like in Japan--go for it. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/wo...anted=all&_r=0
I'm serious; this is a sea change for me as a voter. From now on the politician that promises restrictions on unhealthy behavior gets my vote, all other things equal.
But now that health care is freeeee, it should not not matter to you how badly your neighbor abuses their body, because their health care is freeee.
BTW, banning anything and everything, because you think it might lead to someone, somewhere needing medical care is ignorant. You may as well ban automobiles, homes with bathrooms, stairs, swimming pools, roller blades, skate boards, and ration food.
We often act in ways we think are in our best interest but actually aren’t. Education is key to making good choices. I agree with you there, urban. But if we begin to accept the legislation of personal choice as a legitimate function of government there is absolutely no area of our personal lives that supercilious bureaucrats cannot try to dictate.
I have been for the banning of trans fats in foods because it serves no purpose and is bad for the human body.
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. They also had their own health care plan that they paid for out of their pocket. Not your basic, irresponsible pot smoker that the anti-pot smokers like to portray......here lies the difference.
