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Old 12-16-2013, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
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show me all the alcohol the cartels are smuggling into the usa
They don't have to, because production is legal everywhere, and was legal in other countries when it was illegal in US. I keep telling you, but it is not sinking in: US creating a new drug law, will NOT make drugs legal in other countries. Colombia, Peru, etc countries will continue to produce cocaine and other drugs illegally, and they will continue to smuggle them into US, and bodies will pile up along the way. Yes, many will die to feed the habits of American addicts.
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:17 PM
 
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They don't have to, because production is legal everywhere, and was legal in other countries when it was illegal in US. I keep telling you, but it is not sinking in: US creating a new drug law, will NOT make drugs legal in other countries. Colombia, Peru, etc countries will continue to produce cocaine and other drugs illegally, and they will continue to smuggle them into US, and bodies will pile up along the way. Yes, many will die to feed the habits of American addicts.

if we legalize them? they will too


Legalization debate: first pot, now coke? | GlobalPost


more leaders are waking up to the fact that the war on drugs is a failure..
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Old 12-17-2013, 05:34 AM
 
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They don't have to, because production is legal everywhere, and was legal in other countries when it was illegal in US. I keep telling you, but it is not sinking in: US creating a new drug law, will NOT make drugs legal in other countries. Colombia, Peru, etc countries will continue to produce cocaine and other drugs illegally, and they will continue to smuggle them into US, and bodies will pile up along the way. Yes, many will die to feed the habits of American addicts.
Other countries WILL follow our lead with cannabis. Many countries are talking about it right now, and Uruguay just legalized it! The fight against prohibition of cannabis has been going on for decades and is nearing the end.

Yes the cartels will continue to produce other drugs but their profits will be cut by a large percentage.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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if we legalize them? they will too

Legalization debate: first pot, now coke? | GlobalPost

more leaders are waking up to the fact that the war on drugs is a failure..
If we legalize it, the rest of the world will too.....? I think your crystal ball is defctive.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes the cartels will continue to produce other drugs but their profits will be cut by a large percentage.
Actually it will boost their profits.

The Mexicans are already talking about stopping their anti-smuggling and anti-growing efforts since they are in place mainly for the benefit of the US, and US no longer seems interestes in controlling drug trade. This would put the cartel operated drug trade in Mexico on steroids and certaily put US growers and pot-shops out of business. Will they also allow meth labs to operate freely to flood US markets? Yes, probably. Would that encourage Colombians and Peruvians also ease down on their anti-drug programs which are also in place mostly for the benefit of the US? Of course. If US is not interested in stopping the trade, then why should they be?

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/blueb...fits-violence/

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If this were a test run for a new drug policy, it would be a game-changer. Turning a blind eye to large-scale marijuana grow operations in Mexico would have a direct impact on black market sales throughout the U.S., especially given that 48 states still prohibit its use or sale. The obvious winners in a hands-off approach to Mexican marijuana cultivation (setting aside the future
implications for other drugs grown in other countries) would be DTO’s like the Sinaloa cartel, the Zetas and the Beltran-Leyva cartel.

This would be an unintended consequence of breathtaking proportions.

Then, of course, there is the slippery slope. If Mexican officials stop banning marijuana smuggling, what’s next? Would a weary Colombian government step away from their cocaine eradication program? Would Mexican authorities also turn a blind eye to the meth labs that have sprouted along their northern border?

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Old 12-17-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Actually it will boost their profits.

The Mexicans are already talking about stopping their anti-smuggling and anti-growing efforts since they are in place mainly for the benefit of the US, and US no longer seems interestes in controlling drug trade. This would put the cartel operated drug trade in Mexico on steroids and certaily put US growers and pot-shops out of business. Will they also allow meth labs to operate freely to flood US markets? Yes, probably. Would that encourage Colombians and Peruvians also ease down on their anti-drug programs which are also in place mostly for the benefit of the US? Of course. If US is not interested in stopping the trade, then why should they be?

Could legalized marijuana increase cartel profits, violence? | Blue Byline - The News Tribune

I disagree with some of the assumptions in this link. The cartels, if Mexico legalized it, wouldn't have to be paying for armed security and gangs for growth. Mexican farmers already sale corn, and other farm goods to the United states. Legalized cannabis there would be no different. Selling to states with legalized marijuana will be the first step.
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:46 AM
 
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If we legalize it, the rest of the world will too.....? I think your crystal ball is defctive.


I got mine in Germany!!! where did you get yours china???


Vicente Fox, Former President Of Mexico, Supports Marijuana Legalization As Anti-Cartel Measure
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:36 AM
 
Location: USA
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Actually it will boost their profits.

The Mexicans are already talking about stopping their anti-smuggling and anti-growing efforts since they are in place mainly for the benefit of the US, and US no longer seems interestes in controlling drug trade. This would put the cartel operated drug trade in Mexico on steroids and certaily put US growers and pot-shops out of business. Will they also allow meth labs to operate freely to flood US markets? Yes, probably. Would that encourage Colombians and Peruvians also ease down on their anti-drug programs which are also in place mostly for the benefit of the US? Of course. If US is not interested in stopping the trade, then why should they be?

Could legalized marijuana increase cartel profits, violence? | Blue Byline - The News Tribune
Do you think about what you say? It's almost like your a bot.


Whoever wrote that article should re-take Economics.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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Do you think about what you say?
Yes, thanks for asking. You?
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:37 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Do you think about what you say? It's almost like your a bot.


Whoever wrote that article should re-take Economics.

Probably just following his masters orders.
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