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Old 12-08-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by MJJersey View Post
You are correct, freedom from religion is irrelevant because the government is not imposing a religion on you; the constitution protects you against government action. As such, the constitution protects the sole proprietor against being forced to serve a person who does not adhere to his or her religions views.
No it doesn't. What gave you the idea that it does?

 
Old 12-08-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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Sure makes a lot of sense to force someone who hates you to provide a service for the happiest day of your life,lol.
Why would someone want to financially support a business that didn't want to provide a service to you? How many other bakeries could they go to?
They sound like attention whores.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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When one applies for a business license, one does so with the understanding that the business must be operated as per the laws in the state, county, municipality the business is located in.
The applications are pretty clear about this.
Well "implied" vs "part of the application" was the crux of my comments.
There is no wording on the LLC, Articles of incorporation, business license, permits, etc.

Discrimination laws are city, state, federal.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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By opening a place of public accommodation the person opening the business now has to follow the laws of public accommodations. Just like by becoming a licenses driver means you have to follow the laws regarding the operation of a motor vehicle.
I'm not arguing that. Others have posted that something seems to be written in "applications" and "business licenses".

That is not true at all.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: DFW
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So if you started a business prior to someone deciding a city policy, can you be Obama grandfathered ?
 
Old 12-08-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Pa
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I am far from being anti-gay, but if I was ordered to make that cake there would be a few lungers in it by the time I was finished. What moron would want a cake made by someone who was forced to make it for them?
 
Old 12-08-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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I am far from being anti-gay, but if I was ordered to make that cake there would be a few lungers in it by the time I was finished. What moron would want a cake made by someone who was forced to make it for them?
So in response to being held to anti-discrimination laws, you'd commit a felony.

Seems smart to me.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I am far from being anti-gay, but if I was ordered to make that cake there would be a few lungers in it by the time I was finished. What moron would want a cake made by someone who was forced to make it for them?
Well the way it seems to be playing out is that the people go elsewhere and then file a claim.
They don't want the cake or flowers or photos. They want social justice.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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I wonder what the judge would have to say about the matter if the bakery owner had been a Muslim. It would be fun to watch the PC police grapple with that.
Wonder whatever you like, just so long as you understand that pointing at a bible and wailing like a child doesn't put you or your fellow bigots above the law.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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No it doesn't. What gave you the idea that it does?

The Constitution, not local jurisdiction statutes.
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