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Old 12-25-2013, 05:18 PM
 
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Increases for those who have insurance and are outside the 400% FPL are in the range of 20-25%. There wont be any bailout of insurance companies next year even with all the changes.
Hold on a second, a plausible scenario right now is a large percentage of people that have purchased insurance are going to be already sick. The people that were supposed to be paying their bills haven't signed up.

Assuming that is what is happening who is it you think is going to pay those bills?
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Old 12-25-2013, 08:16 PM
 
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Hold on a second, a plausible scenario right now is a large percentage of people that have purchased insurance are going to be already sick. The people that were supposed to be paying their bills haven't signed up.

Assuming that is what is happening who is it you think is going to pay those bills?
There is more than enough cushion there for several years that there wont be any death spiral. Medicare, Tricare, VA, Medicaid are more than 800 billion which comes from taxes. ACA is revenue neutral and wont be more than 100 billion for the first year. A much bigger problem than the ACA is Medicare, Tricare, VA, and Medicaid but I dont think the Republican base is interested in looking at those programs. Lets focus on the ACA thats where all the spending is.
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Old 12-25-2013, 08:27 PM
 
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There is more than enough cushion there for several years that there wont be any death spiral.
That's not the way insurance works and I want you to remember this discussion at this time next year.
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Old 12-25-2013, 11:37 PM
 
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Wow, it's like a crazy echo chamber in here!
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Old 12-25-2013, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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There is more than enough cushion there for several years that there wont be any death spiral. Medicare, Tricare, VA, Medicaid are more than 800 billion which comes from taxes. ACA is revenue neutral and wont be more than 100 billion for the first year. A much bigger problem than the ACA is Medicare, Tricare, VA, and Medicaid but I dont think the Republican base is interested in looking at those programs. Lets focus on the ACA thats where all the spending is.
Rather than face reality, you chose to believe the obama lies. If the truth isn't yet clear to you, it soon will be.
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Old 12-25-2013, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Personally I was just waiting until after the new year, I, like many Americans, have until the end of March to sign up, so I am not in any hurry.
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:03 AM
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too many people will benefit from it. It will get changed. Soon Republicans politicians will be campaigning on the issue of fixing the ACA rather than overturning it. Too many constituents in voting districts will not be willing to give up the benefits they receive from it.
Probably true, but I doubt it will ever be as popular as things like Bush's Medicare Part D vote buying scheme, because the ACA actually makes people take a little personal responsibility and pay for services to the best of their ability, something at least half the country is very opposed to.
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:04 AM
 
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Because I can't afford 350$ a month with a 13,000$ deductible for my 3 person family.


a 13 THOUSAND dollar deductible.

if you can afford that raise your hand.
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Old 12-26-2013, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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too many people will benefit from it. It will get changed. Soon Republicans politicians will be campaigning on the issue of fixing the ACA rather than overturning it. Too many constituents in voting districts will not be willing to give up the benefits they receive from it.
What benefits?
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Old 12-26-2013, 01:15 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Excellent opinion piece about Obama and moo bats that pray to him. This guy nails it!!!

The Tribune-Democrat : Democrats' double-standard brands opponents of Obamacare
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