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How are blacks being prevented from voting exactly? Are they being denied an ID because they are black?
Do white people not have to go and get the ID?
Blacks who cry racism "claim" they are not being treated equal but when something requires effort, they claim it is too hard yet others don't have a problem. Go figure.
Gee--slimy republican politicians seems to think it will help them. House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R-Allegheny) “Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation – abortion facility regulations – in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.” So he was not only wrong but was intentionally trying to change the vote with ID laws.
Blacks who cry racism "claim" they are not being treated equal but when something requires effort, they claim it is too hard yet others don't have a problem. Go figure.
Whatever fits the agenda, you don't hear them complaining about the $400 non refundable fee to apply for pistol permit in NYC. Would anyone like to suggest that isn't suppression of rights.
Yes. They. Are. They are counted as residents in the census. They are eligible to vote in their college town/city. I've posted links about this before. You may do a search of my posts.
The census does NOT make voting laws. Here are the facts:
ResidencyAt School.Students can establish residency in North Carolin, (which is JUST what I said) a if they have a present intention to remain at their North Carolina school address for the time being, and they intend to make it their principal home. Any other interpretation of the residency laws is unconstitutional. You do not have to intend to stay in North Carolina after graduation or have any definite plans, as long as you do not currently intend to return to your former home.[8] If your registration is denied by the county board of elections based on your residency, you will be given notice and may appeal within five days.[9] At Home. Studentswho lived in North Carolina before moving elsewhere to attend school, and who wish to establish or keep their North Carolina voting residency (i.e., at their parents’ North Carolina address), should have no problem doing so unless they have already registered to vote in another state. Like most states, North Carolina allows students to keep voting residency even if they move to attend school, and the only way you will lose this residency is by establishing residency in a new state. Casting a ballot in another state is considered an abandonment of residency under North Carolina law,[10] and students who have voted in other states will have to follow the normal registration procedures if you wish to vote again in North Carolina.
Whatever fits the agenda, you don't hear them complaining about the $400 non refundable fee to apply for pistol permit in NYC. Would anyone like to suggest that isn't suppression of rights.
Since NC was the state cited by the OP, here are the facts:
ResidencyAt School.Students can establish residency in North Carolin, (which is JUST what I said) a if they have a present intention to remain at their North Carolina school address for the time being, and they intend to make it their principal home. Any other interpretation of the residency laws is unconstitutional. You do not have to intend to stay in North Carolina after graduation or have any definite plans, as long as you do not currently intend to return to your former home.[8] If your registration is denied by the county board of elections based on your residency, you will be given notice and may appeal within five days.[9] At Home. Studentswho lived in North Carolina before moving elsewhere to attend school, and who wish to establish or keep their North Carolina voting residency (i.e., at their parents’ North Carolina address), should have no problem doing so unless they have already registered to vote in another state. Like most states, North Carolina allows students to keep voting residency even if they move to attend school, and the only way you will lose this residency is by establishing residency in a new state. Casting a ballot in another state is considered an abandonment of residency under North Carolina law,[10] and students who have voted in other states will have to follow the normal registration procedures if you wish to vote again in North Carolina.
Bottom line, you CAN ONLY be a resident of 1 state at a time.
Go to the link and you can find the residency laws for every state.
Of course you can only be a resident of one state at a time. But college students get to choose the state and community if different from their parents.
Rock the Vote: Student Voting Rights
"If you are a college student, you have the right to vote where you go to college OR in the town where you grew up. It’s ultimately your choice, but don’t let anyone tell you that you can’t vote in the place where you attend college. It makes sense: If you are a law abiding resident in a college town for four, five, maybe six years, pay taxes, and contribute to the local economy, then you have every right to vote in that town."
I have a lot of experience with this issue, having lived in a college town for seven years, part of that while married to a college student (undergrad, mind you), and currently living, for the last 30 years, in a county with a large university five miles away.
Do you really think college students are the only ones who are in this situation? You can only claim one primary residence, but a lot of people, such as John McCain for one example, have several residences, any one of which could be claimed as primary.
You can only claim one primary residence, but a lot of people, such as John McCain for one example, have several residences, any one of which could be claimed as primary.
I think if you're going to claim primary residence that's what your drivers license should say, that's what you utility bills should say, etc. If a student is going to live in community full time all year then obviously they should be granted the right to vote there because they have skin in the game. Temporary residents especially those living on campus should be denied. Those students will not suffer the consequences of their vote.
You don't know and I don't know. It's like asking how many times people illegaly drove through stop signs today. We can look at indicators like how many people were issued tickets and how many accidents occurred but the vast majority of people that drove through stop signs today have gone undetected.
If that is the number you are going to use and stick to it a 1% difference could easily have changed a presidential election.
What is the number of illegal votes cast for Bush in Florida?
What is the number of illegal votes cast for Gore in Florida?
If we subtract both from the totals does Gore win Florida?
500 votes with millions cast in Florida, it's a miniscule amount and even a handful of fraudulent votes in each Florida county could of made a difference.
I know that statistical analysis have been done to show that voter fraud happens in less than 1% of elections. Also that voter fraud is more likely to happen with absentee voting than in person voting.
If you want to know all of the answers to your questions, you can look them up.
I know that buying IDs for people is a waste of money. Giving people rides to the ID station is a waste of money. Enough said.
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Originally Posted by thecoalman
If your state issues a "secure ID" the BC requirement is federal law. To prevent issues with this PA is issuing a voting only ID. It's only a ver small minority that should require that ID.
Our state does have a secure ID requirement, which is why that lady had to get her birth certificate. She is over 80 years old and back then in south GA many babies were born at home to midwives and not registered with the county/locality so she had never had an official birth certificate issued.
Our ID laws were changed within the past few years and when she went to renew her license, probably related to voting since she actually doesn't drive, she was told the certificate she had was not valid and it took 2-3 months for her to get a valid one because she had to request a bunch of records from where she was born to prove her existence and the existence of her parents lol. It was interesting, but pretty ridiculous. Plus she had to pay quite a few fees out of her own meager SS income to get a birth certificate that otherwise, she wouldn't have needed. And the local housing authority - which is federally funded, so all of you are contributing to this, had to take her around to get everything squared away so thanks for you gas money and bus maintenance money.
The problem is that many conservatives are only against this because you (general you, not specifically the poster above) see it as a racial issue. An "us" vs "them" thing that you can get mad at "the media" about or the NAACP (who you think is a racist organization lol).
Those of you who keep holding onto the belief that "black people can't get IDs" are silly since on the whole black people already have IDs. The NAACP does not just get involved in "black issues" either. You are all letting your crazy prejudices blind you to the fact that providing free IDs and free transportation to people to get IDs is a stupid idea that only serves to increase government spending in the affected states. Also, you are letting your conservative media stations and rags fool you into thinking voter fraud is a serious issue when it is not. Being fiscally responsible is more important than being prejudiced and wanting to denigrate black people. At least it should be. You all really need to wake up and pay attention.
Of course you can only be a resident of one state at a time. But college students get to choose the state and community if different from their parents.
Rock the Vote: Student Voting Rights
"If you are a college student, you have the right to vote where you go to college OR in the town where you grew up. It’s ultimately your choice, but don’t let anyone tell you that you can’t vote in the place where you attend college. It makes sense: If you are a law abiding resident in a college town for four, five, maybe six years, pay taxes, and contribute to the local economy, then you have every right to vote in that town."
I have a lot of experience with this issue, having lived in a college town for seven years, part of that while married to a college student (undergrad, mind you), and currently living, for the last 30 years, in a county with a large university five miles away.
Do you really think college students are the only ones who are in this situation? You can only claim one primary residence, but a lot of people, such as John McCain for one example, have several residences, any one of which could be claimed as primary.
Here you go again. Making up things that people have NOT said and challenging them.
I really think you need a refresher in reading comprehension.
I know that statistical analysis have been done to show that voter fraud happens in less than 1% of elections. Also that voter fraud is more likely to happen with absentee voting than in person voting.
If you want to know all of the answers to your questions, you can look them up.
I know that buying IDs for people is a waste of money. Giving people rides to the ID station is a waste of money. Enough said.
Our state does have a secure ID requirement, which is why that lady had to get her birth certificate. She is over 80 years old and back then in south GA many babies were born at home to midwives and not registered with the county/locality so she had never had an official birth certificate issued.
Our ID laws were changed within the past few years and when she went to renew her license, probably related to voting since she actually doesn't drive, she was told the certificate she had was not valid and it took 2-3 months for her to get a valid one because she had to request a bunch of records from where she was born to prove her existence and the existence of her parents lol. It was interesting, but pretty ridiculous. Plus she had to pay quite a few fees out of her own meager SS income to get a birth certificate that otherwise, she wouldn't have needed. And the local housing authority - which is federally funded, so all of you are contributing to this, had to take her around to get everything squared away so thanks for you gas money and bus maintenance money.
The problem is that many conservatives are only against this because you (general you, not specifically the poster above) see it as a racial issue. An "us" vs "them" thing that you can get mad at "the media" about or the NAACP (who you think is a racist organization lol).
Those of you who keep holding onto the belief that "black people can't get IDs" are silly since on the whole black people already have IDs. The NAACP does not just get involved in "black issues" either. You are all letting your crazy prejudices blind you to the fact that providing free IDs and free transportation to people to get IDs is a stupid idea that only serves to increase government spending in the affected states. Also, you are letting your conservative media stations and rags fool you into thinking voter fraud is a serious issue when it is not. Being fiscally responsible is more important than being prejudiced and wanting to denigrate black people. At least it should be. You all really need to wake up and pay attention.
Um, I am an advocate for voter ID laws and think it is nonsense making it a racial issue. I have no prejudices either. I just want honest elections.
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but is actually a synopsis from a Wisconsin media source. 
