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Old 12-11-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I'm going to assume that some will adopt when married.

Would you support school choice for your children that is a voucher and you can send them to the school of your choice?
Do you worry that your children/future children are going to be saddled with such a large National debt?
Do you think the federal government should tell you what your children/future children can/can't eat in school/bring as school lunch?
Would you prefer to pay higher taxes for government services you may or may not use or lower income taxes/keep more money that you earn and you decide how to spend it?
Do you favor a balanced budget?
Do you think the federal government spends too much money?
Do you think there is too much government regulation?
Do you support the federal government having access to your medical records?
How about making decisions about your health treatment?
Do you live in a big city, smaller city, suburbia or rural area/small town?

I'm trying to figure out if married gays with a family or potential family could support a Libertarian candidate, that is a live and let live attitude about personal issues, but freedom in economic issues. I'm thinking they might have the same concerns as any other family about things like schools, taxes and government spending. I'm also thinking gays with families might tend more to live in houses so their issues/concerns may mirror suburban issues more than urban ones.

From the Libertarian Party FAQ:

"Are Libertarians liberal or conservative?

Libertarians are neither. Unlike liberals or conservatives, Libertarians advocate a high degree of both personal and economic liberty. For example, Libertarians advocate freedom in economic matters, so we're in favor of lowering taxes, slashing bureaucratic regulation of business, and charitable -- rather than government -- welfare. But Libertarians are also socially tolerant. We won't demand laws or restrictions on other people who we may not agree because of personal actions or lifestyles.

Think of us as a group of people with a "live and let live" mentality and a balanced checkbook."

FAQ | Libertarian Party
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Old 12-11-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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I think anyone of any orientation would not be in favor of strict Libertarianism.

- Regulations to make sure their OB and pediatrician can practice medicine.
- Regulations to make sure medications are safe and effective.
- Emergency rooms required to treat kids or parents if they get in trouble and forget their insurance information.
- Regulations ensuring baby formula is not contaminated with toxic chemicals.

The only solution I have seen from Libertarians is that the free market will solve it by people trying products as test subjects. That way if formula is contaminated with meleneme the dead child will show it was the wrong product. If the doctor injures, or kills, the kid because they have no medical training parents can use some one else.

Tuff luck for the kid and the parents I guess. Their lives are "just a cost of doing business" to libertarians.
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Old 12-11-2013, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Libertarians have no problem with stores not serving blacks or gays....so to answer your question; no, gays would probably not feel too comfortable with libertarianism.
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Old 12-11-2013, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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What does sexual orientation or marital status have to do with a persons politics?

I know both heterosexuals and homosexuals that are republicans.
I know both heterosexuals and homosexuals that are democrats.
I know both heterosexuals and homosexuals that are libertarians.
I know both heterosexuals and homosexuals that are anarchists.
I know both heterosexuals and homosexuals that are socialists.

I have voted republican, democrat, and independent in the last 3 years. I tend to vote for the candidate, not a party.
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Old 12-11-2013, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I was a card-carrying libertarian until they proposed to sell the national parks to the highest bidder with no restrictions whatsoever on the use of the land. Screw them.

I have probably twenty close friends who are gay, and there is not a libertarian among them from what I know. One is a republican and the rest are left-leaning independent or strongly democrat. Most of them feel like the republicans don't want them around.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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What does sexual orientation or marital status have to do with a persons politics?

I know both heterosexuals and homosexuals that are republicans.
I know both heterosexuals and homosexuals that are democrats.
I know both heterosexuals and homosexuals that are libertarians.
I know both heterosexuals and homosexuals that are anarchists.
I know both heterosexuals and homosexuals that are socialists.

I have voted republican, democrat, and independent in the last 3 years. I tend to vote for the candidate, not a party.
I think the Democrats think gays are one of their groups. But, even heterosexuals attitudes change about some things after they are married and have a family so now that gays can marry I was curious if that group (married gays) who is not considered by me to be a poor or uneducated minority, dependent on government handouts, generally speaking, might not feel compelled to vote for wanton spending and high taxes but is still socially liberal. That to me might be a better fit with Libertarianism.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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And Libertarians are not for assisting students with aid, or building out infrastructure projects such as rail, roads or even levee systems. No insurance? Too bad, not my problem. Grew old and no family to take care of you, and you're poor? Too bad, not my problem.

No thanks. Some libertarian principles are ok but when it becomes an ideology that the party faithful adhere to at all costs, then the United States becomes a country that doesn't work anymore. I don't want to go back to the 19th century.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:12 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Libertarians have no problem with stores not serving blacks or gays....so to answer your question; no, gays would probably not feel too comfortable with libertarianism.

Oh really? You obviously haven't read the Libertarian Platform, or this little tidbit:


Libertarians embrace the concept that all people are born with certain inherent rights. We reject the idea that a natural right can ever impose an obligation upon others to fulfill that "right." We condemn bigotry as irrational and repugnant. Government should neither deny nor abridge any individual's human right based upon sex, wealth, ethnicity, creed, age, national origin, personal habits, political preference or sexual orientation. Parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their children according to their own standards and beliefs. This statement shall not be construed to condone child abuse or neglect.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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I think the Democrats think gays are one of their groups. But, even heterosexuals attitudes change about some things after they are married and have a family so now that gays can marry I was curious if that group (married gays) who is not considered by me to be a poor or uneducated minority, dependent on government handouts, generally speaking, might not feel compelled to vote for wanton spending and high taxes but is still socially liberal. That to me might be a better fit with Libertarianism.
I'm just curious - would it be okay if people who are poor or uneducated minorities, or "dependent on government handouts" (a wholly overused statement to condemn poor people) were also Libertarians? What about single gay people? Or is it only married gay people that might be interested in this brand of Libertarianism?

For me, I would think that if you want to get more people interested in your platform, we should stop categorizing people into certain interest groups. There is too much tribalism.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:43 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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I'm just curious - would it be okay if people who are poor or uneducated minorities, or "dependent on government handouts" (a wholly overused statement to condemn poor people) were also Libertarians? What about single gay people? Or is it only married gay people that might be interested in this brand of Libertarianism?

For me, I would think that if you want to get more people interested in your platform, we should stop categorizing people into certain interest groups. There is too much tribalism.

This is part of human nature. People tend to seek out other like minded people as well as want to congregate with those who share similar beliefs. Not everyone is the same. And if we were, the world would make for quite a boring place.
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