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Old 12-18-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: World
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According to the article, the woman is a (n accused) criminal, she violated US law to bring her "nanny" into the country. We need to start enforcing SOME laws, even against foreign "diplomats", many have gotten away with crimes for decades.
US is signatory to Vienna convention on Diplomatic relations. One cannot arrest diplomatic/consular staff just like that.
American diplomats have claimed "IMMUNITY" in many cases when in other countries. One cannot claim immunity in other countries while enforcing laws in your own. Then what about Vienna Convention????
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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The situation is now totally bizarre!!!
India Government is now accusing US Administration of committing immigration fraud as husband and two kids of the maid left India two days before this Diplomat was arrested. Apparently maid has got all planned for amnesty or Green Card-thats what Indians are accusing.

Live: To ensure full immunity, India shifts Devyani to permanent mission | Firstpost
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:19 PM
 
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Plus the history of nIdian culture abuse of women in rapes. There are currently the protest of women in that gang rape over the sentence or should I say lack of sentence now.
I find it interesting that the US has a higher rate of forced rape than India, and Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not allowedTexas is second highest in number of rapes among the nation and you're concerned about Indian culture. You should be concerned about your rapist culture.

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Old 12-18-2013, 08:39 PM
 
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The US provides no additional security to any foreign embassy within the US. So much for that myth. :roll eyes:
Those rolling eyes are stuck in the back of your head. What part of "host" do you not understand?

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Foreign nations provide security to embassies from other nations as a courtesy, not as a requirement.
UH …… No …… it is a requirement recognized around the world. This would be why we close US Embassies when the "host" country refuses to provide 'outside the door' Security.

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Marines are guarding US embassies, as well as other diplomatic sites in foreign countries. The Marine Security Guards number approximately 1,000 Marines at 150 posts (also known as "detachments"), organized into nine regional MSG commands and located in over 135 countries in 18 time zones.
YEP ….. I know all that. Did you miss the part about ME actually posting this information?
Did you miss the part about how small this Marine deployment is when you consider the number of Diplomatic Missions we have around the world?

Why yes …… I believe you did miss all that.
It doesn't really matter - a lot of people have no clue about how all this stuff works.
It's a mess, but the Indian Government has "fixed" it all by moving her to the UN Delegation.
She now has complete Diplomatic Immunity and both countries will pretend this never happened.

Until the next time it happens. It's a game they all play.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: DC area
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It is another fine example of how US allies are treated by the Obama administration, while at the same time the US sponsors international terrorism by funding al Qaeda in Syria.
While blaming Obama is fun and all, this screw up is on the NY not the Fed much less Obama. And make no mistake it is a screw up of potentially massive proportions.

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Foreign nations provide security to embassies from other nations as a courtesy, not as a requirement.
Countries are obligated to provide security for embassies within their borders.
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We cannot have DOUBLE STANDARDS!!!!!
This is the absolute truth of the matter. If NY suspected her of wrong doing they should have contacted the Fed. If the Fed found her to be guilty, she would have been sent home. If there was cause for prosecution, it was India's to do, not ours. Taking any other action puts our own people in danger.
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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It's a common myth that Marine Security Guards are guarding US Embassies
Then I said:
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Marines are guarding US embassies, as well as other diplomatic sites in foreign countries. The Marine Security Guards number approximately 1,000 Marines at 150 posts (also known as "detachments"), organized into nine regional MSG commands and located in over 135 countries in 18 time zones.
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YEP ….. I know all that. Did you miss the part about ME actually posting this information?
Since you clearly did not know anything that I posted, and stated so by calling it a "myth," you are either deliberately lying now or profoundly stupid. Which is it, inquiring minds want to know?
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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While blaming Obama is fun and all, this screw up is on the NY not the Fed much less Obama. And make no mistake it is a screw up of potentially massive proportions.
Do you really think things would have gone this far if the Obama's State Department did not want it to?
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Countries are obligated to provide security for embassies within their borders.
Beyond normal law enforcement, host nations are not obligated to put up barricades or assign any additional security. There are no barricades or additional security from the host nations of England, France, Germany, etc., etc., concerning any US embassy. Just as the US does not provide barricades or additional security for the embassies we host.

India provided barricades around the US embassy as a courtesy, not out of an obligation. Considering how discourteous we were to their diplomat, I cannot fault India's response. We should be grateful that India did not give our diplomat the exact same treatment we gave theirs.
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Old 12-19-2013, 01:02 AM
 
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Do you really think things would have gone this far if the Obama's State Department did not want it to?
Their standard response is that they know nothing until they read it in the papers.

There is a culture of lawlessness in this administration that is spreading through agencies of the government.
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Old 12-19-2013, 04:37 AM
 
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Why do we have a embassy in India or anywhere else?
USA must withdraw all the special privileges and barricades from indian embassy in Afghanistan.

Tit for Tat.
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Old 12-19-2013, 06:22 AM
 
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Is John Kerry mentally ill ?? He should force india to reinstate security at US embassy and then go further talks.
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