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Old 12-22-2013, 05:56 PM
 
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I think most Americans are fiscally conservative and socially progressive.

If Republicans were to support same-sex marriage, equal rights for women, stem cell research etc, they would easily win elections.

However, it seems the Republican Party has gone further right with social issues.

I consider myself a moderate that leans Democrat in most elections because I value social policies more than fiscal policies. It does concern me that the Republican Party is headed backwards in time on social issues. If they don't change course, I could see Democrats taking over completely 10, 20, 30 years from now.

Do you Republicans believe this is a problem in your party or do you think going further right on social issues will ensure your survival in the future?
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:04 PM
 
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I think most Americans are fiscally conservative and socially progressive.

If Republicans were to support same-sex marriage, equal rights for women, stem cell research etc, they would easily win elections.

However, it seems the Republican Party has gone further right with social issues.

I consider myself a moderate that leans Democrat in most elections because I value social policies more than fiscal policies. It does concern me that the Republican Party is headed backwards in time on social issues. If they don't change course, I could see Democrats taking over completely 10, 20, 30 years from now.

Do you Republicans believe this is a problem in your party or do you think going further right on social issues will ensure your survival in the future?
The problem with the GOP, is that it currently believes in nothing.

The problem with Democrats, is that they believe in all powerful, controlling tyranny as the key to indefinite retention of power.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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The problem with the GOP, is that it currently believes in nothing.

The problem with Democrats, is that they believe in all powerful, controlling tyranny as the key to indefinite retention of power.
Healthcare for all is tyranny? Good one!
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:09 PM
 
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Equal rights for women??????

Someone is severely confused.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:12 PM
 
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Healthcare for all is tyranny? Good one!
No, the promise of healthcare, while instead, merely grasping for power and control.

And people like you think it's done for you.

It's all done to enable the federal government to direct money to political friends and punish enemies.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:13 PM
 
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Ot's not a given though, the CA GOP is under orders from the top to recruit as many gay candidates as possible. In last novembers election Carl DeMaio, a Republican and gay lost to beltway Bob Filner, the first Democrat mayor of SD in like 36 years. Filner lasted 7 month before resigning in discrace due to a flood of sexual harassment charges that, along with the cost of the new election, will cost the city millions. Filner pleaded guilty to 3 felonies, and is serving 90 days of home confinement with an ankle bracelet.

Filner promised the unions that he would not permit anymore downtown hotels to pass through the zoning process unless all the hotel staff would be unionized, in exchange, the major unions spent millions in soft money ads to him elected. There is a great CD thread on the scandal on the SD page.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:15 PM
 
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I think this is a problem with the Republicans. I'm a millennial, and the majority of us millennials believe in same-sex marriage, for an example. With the younger ones, there is a very negative stigma attached to being a Republican that is considered "backwards, selfish, greedy ********" so a lot of them are like, "Well, I'm not selfish or greedy, or backwards, therefore I can't be a Republican" and it's unfortunate really because that says a lot about the logic of the young generations. I hate my generation.

This is probably one of the main reasons I don't support the Republican Party, actually. I believe in pro-choice, same sex marriage, stem cell research, etc. Pretty much every social freedom that you could think of. These I think are most important. Eventually, I do believe these will be legalized, and once they do, I think the Republicans would then have the upper ground, assuming they don't try to fight it.

But I guess someone's got to support those against it, eh?
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:16 PM
 
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If there is enough people then a party can be formed on that platform. Fact is there isn't now. People who are conservative fiscally; socially are pretty conservative and traditional. I believe at some point which is close people look at society and social change and ask themselves is this a better society or is as many say a society of whatever turns you on;more and more.Regardless people have core beliefs that rise above winning elections. If you look republicans are more social traditional beliefs where as Democrats have socially become the whatever turns you on party.choice is freedom to choice in social beliefs regardless of what anyone says. American are free to believe whatever they want and not to be silenced in expressing that belief.
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Old 12-22-2013, 07:13 PM
 
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I think most Americans are fiscally conservative and socially progressive.

If Republicans were to support same-sex marriage, equal rights for women, stem cell research etc, they would easily win elections.

However, it seems the Republican Party has gone further right with social issues.

I consider myself a moderate that leans Democrat in most elections because I value social policies more than fiscal policies. It does concern me that the Republican Party is headed backwards in time on social issues. If they don't change course, I could see Democrats taking over completely 10, 20, 30 years from now.

Do you Republicans believe this is a problem in your party or do you think going further right on social issues will ensure your survival in the future?
That would likely fail. The GOP is utterly dependent on working class Christian Conservatives particularly those who hate New Democrats. If they drop the culture angle what is to stop the FDR coalition from re-emerging based on the support of socially conservative working class white people? If the cultural issues become non issues, then economic populism becomes kind of a big deal and that will basically decimate the corporate Democrats and the GOP.

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Old 12-22-2013, 07:17 PM
 
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I think most Americans are fiscally conservative and socially progressive.

If Republicans were to support same-sex marriage, equal rights for women, stem cell research etc, they would easily win elections.

However, it seems the Republican Party has gone further right with social issues.

I consider myself a moderate that leans Democrat in most elections because I value social policies more than fiscal policies. It does concern me that the Republican Party is headed backwards in time on social issues. If they don't change course, I could see Democrats taking over completely 10, 20, 30 years from now.

Do you Republicans believe this is a problem in your party or do you think going further right on social issues will ensure your survival in the future?
In other words, "If Republicans would just become Democrats, they would easily win elections".

As of right now, I don't think Republicans have a whole lot to worry about thanks to your Dear Leader's complete mess of a supposed "affordable" care act. There's a reason Republicans don't act like Democrats. We know better.
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