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View Poll Results: What should happen to the Duck Dynasty Star for his statements about Gays?
He should be fired! 2 9.09%
He should be suspended 0 0%
He should be allowed to go back after an apology 1 4.55%
He should be able to state his opinion without fear losing his TV job 19 86.36%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Albany, NY
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But that's exactly what you should be able to do, just don't demand all these people be fired. Haven't you ever said anything that was offensive to someone, but you didn't mean it that way? Should everyone who says something offensive be fired for it? I've heard some pretty vile things about conservatives on MSNBC or Bill Maher's show, but I would never wish they get fired for it. I just don't watch the shows anymore. But you guys always go for blood (inconsistently too).
Again, this was a case where someone said something offensive, and there was a response. His employer, being represented by him, reacted to the response. It's as simple as that. I don't want to risk going off topic by responding to the others you mention individually, but as you note, they were all fired or their shows canceled.

 
Old 12-20-2013, 01:28 PM
 
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We need to clear something up here. Nobody's rights were under assault. I definitely don't agree with A&E's decision, but it is within their rights to do what they did. Robertson did not have his 1st Amendment violated, and A&E is exercising their 1st Amendment rights. A&E is not a government contractor, nor owned or operated by the government. The situation between Robertson and A&E was between two private parties. The 1st Amendment does not protect free speech between private parties, much like C-D has the freedom to censor our opinions. This is a private forum, 1st Amendment does not apply here. The same thing happened with Robertson. So, no, you can put the scary big government claims away, because this is not a case of the FCC censoring Robertson, it is his private employer.
you are right. this isnt a constitutional issue. It is an a classic case of the tollerance crowd being anything but...

hypocracy abounds.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 01:32 PM
 
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let's face it many gays are not tolerant of free speech based on belief unless its their belief.They think they can control beliefs by not allowing them to be expressed freely.Its called suppression of free speech; plain and simple.
Its a cornerstone of the agenda.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Albany, NY
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let's face it many gays are not tolerant of free speech based on belief unless its their belief.They think they can control beliefs by not allowing them to be expressed freely.Its called suppression of free speech; plain and simple.
Free speech works both ways. As in, we also have it.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Once again, right wingers getting all "butt-hurt" because things are being shoved down their throats.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Neither, they are going to milk this controversy for all it's worth. A&E knew his views on things before going into this deal. Well, maybe not his REALLY abhorrent views on the Jim Crow era, but they knew his strong evangelical outlook on life. The people out there who agree with his bigoted and distasteful statements are going to buy all of the DD merchandise they can carry out of Wal-Mart and sit through hours of the show in some futile effort to stick it to those evil PC libs at A&E. And those evil PC libs will laugh all the way to the bank.

Don't think that the A&E marketing department didn't learn from Chik-fil-A. They're going to use the bigotry of their viewers to make a fortune before the flash in the pan brand dies out on it's on.
Agreed.

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:49 PM
 
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Back in the day day the war cry from the homosexuals was," keep your politics out of our bedroom". When it became too obvious that the "Christian right " had no intentions of going into the said homo bedrooms, instead of pretending to be on defense they went on offense and brought the issue up constantly all the while screaming at the right for being obssesed..this is just one more instance in the proggression of their agenda. Nothing more nothing less, the Robertsons are going to be just fine, my guess is they are praying for all the homos that are wishing them ill will.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 01:51 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. Mon View Post
Neither, they are going to milk this controversy for all it's worth. A&E knew his views on things before going into this deal. Well, maybe not his REALLY abhorrent views on the Jim Crow era, but they knew his strong evangelical outlook on life. The people out there who agree with his bigoted and distasteful statements are going to buy all of the DD merchandise they can carry out of Wal-Mart and sit through hours of the show in some futile effort to stick it to those evil PC libs at A&E. And those evil PC libs will laugh all the way to the bank.

Don't think that the A&E marketing department didn't learn from Chik-fil-A. They're going to use the bigotry of their viewers to make a fortune before the flash in the pan brand dies out on it's on.
How exactly are his views bigoted?

The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin. Robertson believes in the Bible.

Robertson thinks that black people weren't unhappy prior to civil rights.

People throw around bigotry too easily. Being a bigot doesn't mean "someone with views different from my own".

Bigot: a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group

Robertson: "We never, ever judge someone on who's going to heaven, hell. That's the Almighty's job. We just love 'em, give 'em the good news about Jesus - whether they're homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort 'em out later."

That is the polar opposite of refusing to accept or hating members of a particular group. He says specifically it's not for him to judge.

The only bigotry on display here is yours and people like you, who knee-jerk condemn someone without taking the time or effort to understand what they said.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Albany, NY
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Back in the day day the war cry from the homosexuals was," keep your politics out of our bedroom". When it became too obvious that the "Christian right " had no intentions of going into the said homo bedrooms, instead of pretending to be on defense they went on offense and brought the issue up constantly all the while screaming at the right for being obssesed..this is just one more instance in the proggression of their agenda. Nothing more nothing less, the Robertsons are going to be just fine, my guess is they are praying for all the homos that are wishing them ill will.
Actually, back in the day, people literally would go into our bedrooms. That's how Lawrence v. Texas, the case that overturned anti-sodomy laws nationwide in 2003, was started. Police literally kicked down the door to someone's bedroom.

We've moved beyond having our bedroom doors kicked down while we're having sex to seeking full equality. That's the difference.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 01:53 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Free speech works both ways. As in, we also have it.
That's fine but many radical Gays want to call it Hate speech and ban it.
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