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View Poll Results: What should happen to the Duck Dynasty Star for his statements about Gays?
He should be fired! 2 9.09%
He should be suspended 0 0%
He should be allowed to go back after an apology 1 4.55%
He should be able to state his opinion without fear losing his TV job 19 86.36%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-20-2013, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Albany, NY
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
And? The government took no action whatsoever, so there is no violation of this amendment. Find where it says people have a right to a TV show and we'll talk.

 
Old 12-20-2013, 05:08 PM
 
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Free speech works both ways. You only want it to work your way.
Sorry jay jay , your barking up the wrong tree, I said this is not a free speech issue.........I agree, Robertsons situation is not about free speech necesssarily. I am of the believe that any company should be able to fire anyone for any reason. I have been slapped down here on this very forum for expreesing the same things Robertson did. The bigger issue is the double standard and reverse intolerance by our governments media and the left on behalf of a very minute percentage of the population. Especially when what was said was the obvious truth and a no brainer. This is not a free speech issue......however if it ever comes to a point where a person can be charged with a crime for calling some one a qu**r or f*ggot, then it will be and my belief is that is where we are headed.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Anchorage Suburbanites and part time Willowbillies
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How many ducks has Mahmoud Ahmadinejad killed?

How many people is Phil Robertson responsible for killing?
 
Old 12-20-2013, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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To all who keep insisting on pointing out that the freedom of speech only pertains to restrictions of speech by the government and not reprisals from employers.........

Duh.


Thats really not the point here.
The point is not whether A&E had the right to fire Phil, it's whether or not they SHOULD have fired him for expressing his religious beliefs when he was ASKED.

Make no mistake, this is not a question of first ammendment rights.
This is a war of religions.

Phil was advocating the views of his religion........Christianity.

A&E and GLADD were advocating the position of their religion........Secularism and Political Correctness.

Because without a doubt, political correctness is the alter at which the Progressive faithful worship.

So yes....A&E had every legal right to fire him
But if the situation were reversed, and a Christian based company like Chick-fil-A fired a gay employee for publicly stating opinions that were offensive to Christians they would have every right to fire them too.

And the Left would have a collective hissy fit over that and protest about how Chick-fil-A was "violating his rights".
 
Old 12-20-2013, 05:10 PM
 
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Duck Dynasty: The Show That Got Away |Blogs | NCRegister.com

Good read. Seems pretty likely to me.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Anchorage Suburbanites and part time Willowbillies
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And? The government took no action whatsoever, so there is no violation of this amendment. Find where it says people have a right to a TV show and we'll talk.
Did I write any of that?

Nope...didn't think so.

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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
 
Old 12-20-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Dooleys1300 View Post
To all who keep insisting on pointing out that the freedom of speech only pertains to restrictions of speech by the government and not reprisals from employers.........

Duh.


Thats really not the point here.
The point is not whether A&E had the right to fire Phil, it's whether or not they SHOULD have fired him for expressing his religious beliefs when he was ASKED.

Make no mistake, this is not a question of first ammendment rights.
This is a war of religions.

Phil was advocating the views of his religion........Christianity.

A&E and GLADD were advocating the position of their religion........Secularism and Political Correctness.

Because without a doubt, political correctness is the alter at which the Progressive faithful worship.

So yes....A&E had every legal right to fire him
But if the situation were reversed, and a Christian based company like Chick-fil-A fired a gay employee for publicly stating opinions that were offensive to Christians they would have every right to fire them too.

And the Left would have a collective hissy fit over that and protest about how Chick-fil-A was "violating his rights
".
POST OF THE DAY!! Says it all right there! Ephesians 6:12
 
Old 12-20-2013, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Albany, NY
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Originally Posted by Dooleys1300 View Post
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So yes....A&E had every legal right to fire him
But if the situation were reversed, and a Christian based company like Chick-fil-A fired a gay employee for publicly stating opinions that were offensive to Christians they would have every right to fire them too.

And the Left would have a collective hissy fit over that and protest about how Chick-fil-A was "violating his rights".
That's one hell of an assumption. I would support anyone for firing someone who was causing a disturbance at work. In fact, that's pretty much what most of us have been saying repeatedly. He embarrassed his employer, and got fired. Kinda like that lesbian waitress in NJ, whose firing I vehemently supported.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Albany, NY
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Did I write any of that?

Nope...didn't think so.
Well then, you're more than welcome to explain how posting the First Amendment is at all relevant to this discussion.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dooleys1300 View Post
To all who keep insisting on pointing out that the freedom of speech only pertains to restrictions of speech by the government and not reprisals from employers.........

Duh.


Thats really not the point here.
The point is not whether A&E had the right to fire Phil, it's whether or not they SHOULD have fired him for expressing his religious beliefs when he was ASKED.

Make no mistake, this is not a question of first ammendment rights.
This is a war of religions.

Phil was advocating the views of his religion........Christianity.

A&E and GLADD were advocating the position of their religion........Secularism and Political Correctness.

Because without a doubt, political correctness is the alter at which the Progressive faithful worship.

So yes....A&E had every legal right to fire him
But if the situation were reversed, and a Christian based company like Chick-fil-A fired a gay employee for publicly stating opinions that were offensive to Christians they would have every right to fire them too.

And the Left would have a collective hissy fit over that and protest about how Chick-fil-A was "violating his rights".
Good point.
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