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Old 12-21-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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I'll speak as i wish. Thank you.
But why not speak in the appropriate forum?

 
Old 12-21-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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Please take your fairy tales to the religion forum. Adults are trying to have a conversation here about civil marriage under our secular laws.
God's laws are eternal and perfect.. Man's laws change all the time, often for the worse. The law legalizing same sex marriage is an abomination.
 
Old 12-21-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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I have no idea what you said, but it sounded a lot like you don't want to focus on fixing the divorce rate of heterosexual marriage.

Yeah you guys sure love it, huh? Fix that divorce rate before trying to deny other Americans their ability to marry. Thanks!
No one is stopping people from getting married. Get married to your cat for all i care. The point that states have to make it a law, should show you, there is some contention with it.

As to the divorce rate. Gov't doesn't belong in the Marriage discussion at all, to me.

It certainly doesn't have the ability to fix anything, it only destroys.

No Fault divorce is a stain on our country. The Gov't has no business supporting or destroying marriage.

It all starts with abuse of power.
 
Old 12-21-2013, 02:07 PM
 
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God's laws are eternal and perfect.. Man's laws change all the time, often for the worse. The law legalizing same sex marriage is an abomination.
Imaginary friends have no place in the law.
 
Old 12-21-2013, 02:07 PM
 
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But why not speak in the appropriate forum?
This discussion is about the legalization of same sex marriage and is the "appropriate" forum. That you don't like religious objections to the law doesn't change that.
 
Old 12-21-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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But why not speak in the appropriate forum?
Why do you pick and choose how the conversation goes? When asked, i will answer according to my ability, and no one will say what i can say or not say. Unless the mods ban me, or stop this thread.

I will speak with freedom, always.
 
Old 12-21-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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Imaginary friends have no place in the law.
You are sadly mistaken. God is very real as you will someday learn.
 
Old 12-21-2013, 02:10 PM
 
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This discussion is about the legalization of same sex marriage and is the "appropriate" forum. That you don't like religious objections to the law doesn't change that.
Religious objections to a secular law don't make any sense. The only connection I see between religion and marriage laws was made by the judge in the Utah decision:

"The recognition of same-sex marriage expands religious freedom because some churches ... desire to perform same-sex (civil) wedding ceremonies but are currently unable to do so."
 
Old 12-21-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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You are sadly mistaken. God is very real as you will someday learn.
Even if your imaginary friend turns out to be real, he still has no place in our laws.
 
Old 12-21-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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This discussion is about the legalization of same sex marriage and is the "appropriate" forum. That you don't like religious objections to the law doesn't change that.
Oh, I'm so glad you said this!!

the first amendment promotes freedom of religion and separation of church and state. You have the right to be against gay people getting married, but it is unconstitutional to get your religious views made law, thanks to the constitution. Just because you don't like that freedom applies to everyone doesn't change the fact that it does.
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