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Old 12-19-2013, 08:24 PM
NCN
 
Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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And how much do you think your taxes should go up to pay for all those prisons needed? Maybe we can finally imprison our way out of the drug problem yet. Just build hundreds of new prisons.
My husband thinks the death penalty would improve the prison population. That would include anyone caught here illegally, repeat offenders, etc. Slapping people on the hand and releasing them solves nothing. We will just have to go through the expensive process again. Start executing those on death row and make it a capital crime to have possession of drugs would send a message that some would listen to. Going to prison just cuddles the criminals.

Much of our crime statistics comes from people on drugs stealing to support their habit and people here illegally stealing to live off us. They are doing this country no good and we would be better off without them. Putting them back on the street to do it again is NOT the solution.

People should be arrested for having drugs and not for having guns. This administration is backwards in their practices.

If this country would do that both our taxes and our insurance premiums would go down.

When illegals are caught, they should have the choice of leaving the country or going to death row. If they leave the country and come back it should be mandatory death row with no choice. When a country is being invaded like we are, we need some better management and stricter laws. And our legal citizens should not be the people who are fearing for our lives. The wrong people are living in fear.

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Old 12-19-2013, 09:02 PM
 
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My husband thinks the death penalty would improve the prison population. That would include anyone caught here illegally, repeat offenders, etc. Slapping people on the hand and releasing them solves nothing. We will just have to go through the expensive process again. Start executing those on death row and make it a capital crime to have possession of drugs would send a message that some would listen to. Going to prison just cuddles the criminals.

Much of our crime statistics comes from people on drugs stealing to support their habit and people here illegally stealing to live off us. They are doing this country no good and we would be better off without them. Putting them back on the street to do it again is NOT the solution.

People should be arrested for having drugs and not for having guns. This administration is backwards in their practices.

If this country would do that both our taxes and our insurance premiums would go down.

When illegals are caught, they should have the choice of leaving the country or going to death row. If they leave the country and come back it should be mandatory death row with no choice. When a country is being invaded like we are, we need some better management and stricter laws. And our legal citizens should not be the people who are fearing for our lives. The wrong people are living in fear.
You make the taliban sound rational.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:10 PM
 
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Why only 8? What of all the others?and yet still his policies seem to be a continuation of the failed drug war.
Could the reason be that Obama is a hypocrite?
Good political move on his part. Rallying the base. The problem now will be all the others. the link below shows pictures of them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rug-cases.html
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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These sentences were absurd and hopefully the USA will get sensible about the rate of incarcerations and lengths of jail sentences for non-violent crimes.

Obama has new connections for his toot habit....
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:17 PM
 
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My husband thinks the death penalty would improve the prison population. That would include anyone caught here illegally, repeat offenders, etc. Slapping people on the hand and releasing them solves nothing. We will just have to go through the expensive process again. Start executing those on death row and make it a capital crime to have possession of drugs would send a message that some would listen to. Going to prison just cuddles the criminals.

Much of our crime statistics comes from people on drugs stealing to support their habit and people here illegally stealing to live off us. They are doing this country no good and we would be better off without them. Putting them back on the street to do it again is NOT the solution.

People should be arrested for having drugs and not for having guns. This administration is backwards in their practices.

If this country would do that both our taxes and our insurance premiums would go down.

When illegals are caught, they should have the choice of leaving the country or going to death row. If they leave the country and come back it should be mandatory death row with no choice. When a country is being invaded like we are, we need some better management and stricter laws. And our legal citizens should not be the people who are fearing for our lives. The wrong people are living in fear.

So a 17 year old should be given a life sentence for making a mistake or better yet according to you, a death sentence. Did you even bother to read the linked article before posting BS?

What are you even talking about? People that own guns are locked up? Which universe are you living in?
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:34 PM
 
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So a 17 year old should be given a life sentence for making a mistake or better yet according to you, a death sentence. Did you even bother to read the linked article before posting BS?

What are you even talking about? People that own guns are locked up? Which universe are you living in?
Actually I am glad to hear about this but there are also white kids this is happening to. I remember one show about it awhile back. That's the problem.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:39 PM
 
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My husband thinks the death penalty would improve the prison population. That would include anyone caught here illegally, repeat offenders, etc. Slapping people on the hand and releasing them solves nothing. We will just have to go through the expensive process again. Start executing those on death row and make it a capital crime to have possession of drugs would send a message that some would listen to. Going to prison just cuddles the criminals.

Much of our crime statistics comes from people on drugs stealing to support their habit and people here illegally stealing to live off us. They are doing this country no good and we would be better off without them. Putting them back on the street to do it again is NOT the solution.

People should be arrested for having drugs and not for having guns. This administration is backwards in their practices.

If this country would do that both our taxes and our insurance premiums would go down.

When illegals are caught, they should have the choice of leaving the country or going to death row. If they leave the country and come back it should be mandatory death row with no choice. When a country is being invaded like we are, we need some better management and stricter laws. And our legal citizens should not be the people who are fearing for our lives. The wrong people are living in fear.
You are a very scary person.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:43 PM
 
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Actually I am glad to hear about this but there are also white kids this is happening to. I remember one show about it awhile back. That's the problem.
Considering the fact that a rich kid is DUI, kills four and paralyzes another, but gets off relatively scott free, while others are serving life sentences fo drug use, I'd say the system needs a complete overhaul.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:15 AM
 
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My husband thinks the death penalty would improve the prison population. That would include anyone caught here illegally, repeat offenders, etc. Slapping people on the hand and releasing them solves nothing. We will just have to go through the expensive process again. Start executing those on death row and make it a capital crime to have possession of drugs would send a message that some would listen to. Going to prison just cuddles the criminals.

Much of our crime statistics comes from people on drugs stealing to support their habit and people here illegally stealing to live off us. They are doing this country no good and we would be better off without them. Putting them back on the street to do it again is NOT the solution.

People should be arrested for having drugs and not for having guns. This administration is backwards in their practices.

If this country would do that both our taxes and our insurance premiums would go down.

When illegals are caught, they should have the choice of leaving the country or going to death row. If they leave the country and come back it should be mandatory death row with no choice. When a country is being invaded like we are, we need some better management and stricter laws. And our legal citizens should not be the people who are fearing for our lives. The wrong people are living in fear.
You call yourself a country girl. Which country, North Korea?
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:24 AM
 
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These were not drug dealers and if you read the link, you would know that there are reasons that these sentences were unfair. Why is the right wing so mean spirited and unforgiving? Seriously, anything that displays empathy and chances at renewal and redemption is taboo to those on the right.
I certainly 'hope' there is "renewal and redemption" for these 8 people that will be released back on the streets. Sentencing laws have been 'changed' - these people have strong lobbies to aid in their release and for the 'change' in the laws (and long sad stories to back them up). I certainly don't argue that the sentences appear to be over the top in these cases ….. on the other hand, there is always a "back story" and I feel we rarely get the truth about much. It's not up to me or to you to decide was is "fair or "not fair" - that why we have courts, Judges and Jury trials. If laws need to be changed - then Congress should do it, but it's not looking like anyone even cares about Law anymore. Enforcement appears to be subject to whim or Decree.

I don't know how many of the released prisoners were involved in Drug Dealing, but at least one of the most 'famous' was. Just because the New York Times leaves info out of an article - doesn't mean the information was not available to them (most Media is reporting the connections). Turns out that Governor Deval Patrick's 1st cousin on his Mother's side just got a Presidential commutation. Reynolds Wintersmith was not 17 when he was arrested - he was 17 when he joined the the largest Gang in Chicago - the Gangster Disciples. He was arrested at age 19 for dealing both powder cocaine and base cocaine/Crack - convicted in 1994.
Deval Patrick claims to know nothing about nothing. He is Governor Bystander.

Obama commuted sentence of Deval Patrick kin - Politico, 12/19/13
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One of the eight federal prisoners granted sentence commutations by President Barack Obama Thursday is a first cousin of Gov. Deval Patrick (D-Mass), one of the president's most devoted supporters on the national political scene.

Reynolds Allen Wintersmith Jr. was sentenced to life in prison after being convicted in Illinois federal court in 1994 of conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and distribute cocaine and cocaine base and possession with intent to distribute crack. He was 19 at the time of his arrest and 17 at the time he got involved running drugs for the Gangster Disciples gang. He is 39 today and has spent the past 19 years in prison.
Now it turns out that Reynold's Wintersmith's case actually went to the US Supreme Court in 1998 (I guess this slipped the mind of both Governor Bystander and the New York Times) - there were 5 men involved in the US Supreme Court case ….. it was all about the difference between Cocaine and Crack an the Judges orders to the Jury. The vote was unanimous to up-hold the convictions. All of the petitioners to the US Supreme Court had a conviction based on both Cocaine and Crack.

Odd thing is …… only 1 of those 5 men got a Presidential Commutation and Get out of Jail card - Deval Patrick's cousin.
I wonder what those other 4 men (and their families) are thinking about today.
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