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Old 12-23-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Wilsonville, OR
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
Harrier relies on common sense - not biased studies.
It must be nice to be able to automatically dismiss any study that doesn't agree with your worldview as being "biased". Your "common sense" is not necessarily sensible.

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Children need a mother and father in order to develop normally.
I am sorry, (actually, I'm not) but this simply is not true.

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Sadly, single parenthood abounds due to divorce, however, it should never be allowed for children to be willfully denied a mother and a father from the start, or to place an orphan in a same sex household, both of which are sub-optimal situations and borderline child abuse.
Explain how this is "child abuse". Did you know there have been studies that show children raised in same-sex households can often turn out better adjusted than children raised in opposite-sex households?

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Why do you support the destruction of our society?
This is what we call the "Loaded question" fallacy. It's no different than if I were to ask you something like "So, when did you stop beating your spouse?". I don't support the destruction of society, far from it. I support views and goals that increase (or at least have the potential to increase) human happiness, safety, and contentment, in accordance with the Golden Rule and the humanist manifesto, and my own inborn sense of empathy.

 
Old 12-23-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Did you have both a mother and a father?
I'm sorry they raised such a bigot. Raising bigots is bad parenting.
In that case you had bad parents.

Stop being a bigot.
 
Old 12-23-2013, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by Lunar Delta View Post
I don't support the destruction of society, far from it.
You support gay marriage and homosexuals "raising" children, don't you?
 
Old 12-23-2013, 12:49 PM
 
Location: "Chicago"
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
Harrier participated in a skit about this very topic(in Spanish no less).

The gay army is attacking the fundamental building block of our society - the family.

When you demolish the foundation - the walls come tumbling down - just as did the walls of Jericho.

Why do you support the destruction of our society?
Attacking the building blocks of society - the family - by having families of their own?

Surely you do not believe the rubbish that you post.
 
Old 12-23-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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Then why do you support the gay army doing exactly that?
The gay army does not want to force straight people to either have a gay marriage or no marriage at all. Yet you and your ilk want to force gay people to either have a straight marriage or no marriage at all.

See how your side is the one forcing things onto others, not our side.
 
Old 12-23-2013, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I do not agree. I like many of the legal rights created and conferred by civil marriage contracts, and I would not like to see them go away.
Civil contracts are fine - government endorsed marriage is not.
 
Old 12-23-2013, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Wilsonville, OR
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You support gay marriage and homosexuals "raising" children, don't you?
Absolutely. What does this have to do with the destruction of society?

Lunar Delta wonders if Harrier realizes that society has not been destroyed in any of the states or other nations that have legalized same-sex marriage and same-sex adoption. The assertions Harrier is making are demonstrably false.

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Old 12-23-2013, 12:50 PM
 
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Civil contracts are fine - government endorsed marriage is not.
But that's exactly what government marriage is - a civil contract.
 
Old 12-23-2013, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by hammertime33 View Post
The gay army does not want to force straight people to either have a gay marriage or no marriage at all. Yet you and your ilk want to force gay people to either have a straight marriage or no marriage at all.

See how your side is the one forcing things onto others, not our side.
Wrong, Harrier wants the government to get entirely out of the marriage business.

Why do you not support such a common sense proposal?
 
Old 12-23-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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But that's exactly what government marriage is - a civil contract.
Sanctioned and endorsed by the government, not just enforced by the courts, which is the only involvement government should have in private contracts.
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