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Old 12-31-2013, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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If a man lies with another man as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13
People I guess believe anything that they read.

 
Old 12-31-2013, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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He isn't talking about religion - he is talking about reality.
No, quoting the bible is religion, and belongs in the religion forum.

When discussing laws the bible has ZERO input into the situation.
 
Old 12-31-2013, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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He isn't talking about religion - he is talking about reality.
Reality is an agreed upon collection of whim, thoughts, perceptions and assumptions. The fact that people think it and agree upon it does not make it real though. It just gives people a structure. It may be incorrect or correct as we know the 4 minute mile was reality until it was not. Matter was solid until it was found not to be so in space and the bible was real a long long time ago. The fact that people still cling to it's teachings which are specious does not make it real just an agreed upon notion. No?
 
Old 12-31-2013, 07:14 AM
 
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I know, eh?

What was it, 20 million?
Yep, and it is going to cost the state another $2 million to defend the law. What a waste.
 
Old 12-31-2013, 07:15 AM
 
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Everyone's reality.
Nope. Leveitcus has nothing to do with my reality. You can choose to live by the OT if you choose, but you can not force anyone else to live by YOUR religious beliefs.
 
Old 12-31-2013, 07:15 AM
 
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No, quoting the bible is religion, and belongs in the religion forum.

When discussing laws the bible has ZERO input into the situation.
The only law that really counts is God's law. Your own self made set of rules has ZERO authority.
 
Old 12-31-2013, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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No, quoting the bible is religion, and belongs in the religion forum.

When discussing laws the bible has ZERO input into the situation.
Actually it has quite an impact on the freedom of people as those who believe these things oppose the laws which are now being put in place to protect the LBGT communities. So I think that it does belong in this forum as long as the poster is willing to engage in viewpoints. Dogma and dogmatic are boring but still play a part in the formation of the laws which now in Utah have been put down.
 
Old 12-31-2013, 07:17 AM
 
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The only law that really counts is God's law. Your own self made set of rules has ZERO authority.
Good luck trying to sell that one in a court of law.
 
Old 12-31-2013, 08:09 AM
 
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The only law that really counts is God's law. Your own self made set of rules has ZERO authority.
Which God and which laws?

Your own self made god and self made version of it's laws?
 
Old 12-31-2013, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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The only law that really counts is God's law. Your own self made set of rules has ZERO authority.

There is a fondness of the creator for the creation. Gay straight do you honestly think that the creator of the entire universe gives a damn? It's an old dried up book. Get with the life Creation wants you to live. Open free and not associated with fixed and false beliefs. Sorry, it's just the way we roll.
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