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Old 12-21-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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Wrong

Banks are buying t bills at record levels with that money, and we all know from listening to liberal kooks that money to the government stimulates.. Heck, we've learned that money to the government stimulates more than a 1 for 1 ratio, so using that argument, we should be growing around 15% a year
I'm going to ignore you again, since you obviously didn't even read what I wrote. Banks are sitting on the money, in part, because they earn interest. Blah.
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Old 12-21-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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I'm going to ignore you again, since you obviously didn't even read what I wrote. Banks are sitting on the money, in part, because they earn interest. Blah.
No **** they earn interest on the money, thats why they are buying t bills with it

Banks by design dont earn interest by SITTING on money.. If you think they do, then you need to return to 3rd grade.
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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I'm pretty sure that people new by September that the government was shutting down October 1st, and started preparing for it. I dont know, call me a realist, but I dont think it came as a shock to anyone that it was scheduled.
The OP stated that third quarter growth was proof that shutting down government spending (which hadn't happened yet) didn't lead to recessions.
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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The OP was out to lunch in this one; timing's off.

I think the main story is the recovery of housing, and the rising market increased the "wealth effect" releasing some pent up demand for housing and other items. The sequester effects were a drag, but small in comparison to the massive effect of the first two factors.
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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The OP was out to lunch in this one; timing's off.

I think the main story is the recovery of housing, and the rising market increased the "wealth effect" releasing some pent up demand for housing and other items. The sequester effects were a drag, but small in comparison to the massive effect of the first two factors.
Wingers in this thread need to make up their minds- are they trying to claim credit for the Obama economy in 2014, or try to say it sucks?

They can't have it both ways...
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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No **** they earn interest on the money, thats why they are buying t bills with it

Banks by design dont earn interest by SITTING on money.. If you think they do, then you need to return to 3rd grade.
No matter, that money is not going anywhere.....




I have a hunch if you had data from the Great Depression, you'd see that the MV now is less than or equal to MV during the Great Depression.

Hedging....

Mircea
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Old 12-21-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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See what happens when government get's out of the way? See what happens when there's a government shut down?

I think we can put to rest the left fallacy that cutting spending leads to recession. I think it's time for that 10% haircut across all departments that I think everyone can agree on...
Huh. This congress as passed more regulation than any of the recent congresses. perhaps better stated in spite of government. Then that isn't that good at all; should be double. but that is true as it was last year in several regions of 8%+ GDP growth.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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No matter, that money is not going anywhere.....




I have a hunch if you had data from the Great Depression, you'd see that the MV now is less than or equal to MV during the Great Depression.

Hedging....

Mircea
Something like this...

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Old 12-22-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Wingers in this thread need to make up their minds- are they trying to claim credit for the Obama economy in 2014, or try to say it sucks?

They can't have it both ways...
It sucks. It just sucks less than it would otherwise.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:50 PM
 
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This is one of those threads that's made for arguing for the sake of argument

If we have good economic activity, I don't give a damn who is responsible.
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